Steelers franchise Starks

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

It's a good move! Secure what we can secure and try to either work out a long term deal or draft his replacement in April and let it play out for another year. It gives the team security considering all of our OT's are FA's!!!

Exactly. Control what you can control. This takes the pressure off reaching in the draft for a OT who unlikely could start in 2009 and it gives one more year to develop Hills. This is a very smart move by the people who actaully know something about football and don't let emotional feelings about players get in the way of doing what is best for the team.

Now let Kemo walk and offer Marvel a vet minimum with incentives. Sign Essex to back up $$$. This allows us to take a look at the best player for the greatest need in Rounds 1 and 2 whether that be determined to be OL, DL or CB.

[AkronSteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

[Iron Shiek]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

Yes especially with 3 free agent CB's coming off the market in the last 24 hours. Anyone wanting a CB is going to look at BMac first now.

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

Bmac was gone about one millisecond after the raiders signed Asomugha for $15M per year and blew the top off the scale for CBs.

Franchising Starks or not franchising him would not have effected that situation one bit.

Bmac was never the priority. The priorities are: Harrison, LT, Heath Miller in that order. Having the dollars to extend Woodley was even more important that Bmac. Bmac was never more than the #4 or 5 priority when you think long term.

[DBinAL]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

It was a very smart business and football move. Now the Steelers can low-ball Marvel Smith and give him a 'take it or leave it' ultimatum. If Marvel is heallthy enough to play LT, then move Starks over to RT. Draft an OT and prepare for 2010.

[AkronSteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

It's a good move! Secure what we can secure and try to either work out a long term deal or draft his replacement in April and let it play out for another year. It gives the team security considering all of our OT's are FA's!!!

Exactly. Control what you can control. This takes the pressure off reaching in the draft for a OT who unlikely could start in 2009 and it gives one more year to develop Hills. This is a very smart move by the people who actaully know something about football and don't let emotional feelings about players get in the way of doing what is best for the team.

Now let Kemo walk and offer Marvel a vet minimum with incentives. Sign Essex to back up $$$. This allows us to take a look at the best player for the greatest need in Rounds 1 and 2 whether that be determined to be OL, DL or CB.

I agree with everything that you just said except resigning Marvel! The guy is never going to make it back and stay healthy for an entire season or even be someone we can rely on!

With Starks getting the Franchise tag and Colon getting his tender, I would resign Essex for backup money....hope Hills develops....and draft an OT in rounds 1-3, no reason to pigeon hole ourselves with the 1st rounder but we do need to spend a quality pick on an OT in this draft, it is a must!

[AkronSteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

Bmac was gone about one millisecond after the raiders signed Asomugha for $15M per year and blew the top off the scale for CBs.

Franchising Starks or not franchising him would not have effected that situation one bit.

Bmac was never the priority. The priorities are: Harrison, LT, Heath Miller in that order. Having the dollars to extend Woodley was even more important that Bmac. Bmac was never more than the #4 or 5 priority when you think long term.

I agree with that!! Resigning James and Heath and securing the OL for the future are much more important than getting BMac under contract. The team always seems to be able to find CB's to fit the system and with the pass rush that we possess we don't really need to spend crazy $ on a guy that has only started for 15 games in 4 years.

[Lebsteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

Bmac was gone about one millisecond after the raiders signed Asomugha for $15M per year and blew the top off the scale for CBs.

Franchising Starks or not franchising him would not have effected that situation one bit.

Bmac was never the priority. The priorities are: Harrison, LT, Heath Miller in that order. Having the dollars to extend Woodley was even more important that Bmac. Bmac was never more than the #4 or 5 priority when you think long term.

I agree with that!! Resigning James and Heath and securing the OL for the future are much more important than getting BMac under contract. The team always seems to be able to find CB's to fit the system and with the pass rush that we possess we don't really need to spend crazy $ on a guy that has only started for 15 games in 4 years.[/quote]

Akron, not bad, you're on your game today as well!

[steelz09]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

Bmac was gone about one millisecond after the raiders signed Asomugha for $15M per year and blew the top off the scale for CBs.

Franchising Starks or not franchising him would not have effected that situation one bit.

Bmac was never the priority. The priorities are: Harrison, LT, Heath Miller in that order. Having the dollars to extend Woodley was even more important that Bmac. Bmac was never more than the #4 or 5 priority when you think long term.

Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.

[aggiebones]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

Any chance that we could trade him now.
Maybe he can reach a contract number with another organization with a top X pick. We ship them Starks and No.32 for their top 10 pick. We grab a future LT.
Sign Marvel for 6-8 weeks whatever he can survive, then go with Mr. rookie. Though Starks would be cheaper than a top 10 LT.
I'd rather go Marvel + rookie future than just 1 more expensive year with Max.

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

Any chance that we could trade him now.
Maybe he can reach a contract number with another organization with a top X pick. We ship them Starks and No.32 for their top 10 pick. We grab a future LT.
Sign Marvel for 6-8 weeks whatever he can survive, then go with Mr. rookie. Though Starks would be cheaper than a top 10 LT.
I'd rather go Marvel + rookie future than just 1 more expensive year with Max.

I'd rather go Marvel + rookie future than just 1 more expensive year with Max.

I think the organozation actually wants to win another championship. You don't do that with a hope and prayer that Marvel is healthy or a rokkie can play LT.

The org did the right thing.

[AkronSteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

This takes a chunk out of that 19 million that the Steelers had under the cap. Hopefully the team can negotiate a long term deal. I wonder if this means BMac is gone. Oh well, can't keep everyone.

BMac is gone!! Too bad too! The guy is a solid ball player but he is going to get paid way too much!

Bmac was gone about one millisecond after the raiders signed Asomugha for $15M per year and blew the top off the scale for CBs.

Franchising Starks or not franchising him would not have effected that situation one bit.

Bmac was never the priority. The priorities are: Harrison, LT, Heath Miller in that order. Having the dollars to extend Woodley was even more important that Bmac. Bmac was never more than the #4 or 5 priority when you think long term.

Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.

I agree J but I just don't see how there will not be a team out there that throws way too much money at a guy that was a starter on the SB Champs! The guy has talent and Rosenhaus will get someone over a barrel. I would love to keep the guy but I wouldn't say that he is one of our top priorities considering that James, Heath, Hines and Keisel are all coming up on contract in 2010.

[AkronSteel]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

Any chance that we could trade him now.
Maybe he can reach a contract number with another organization with a top X pick. We ship them Starks and No.32 for their top 10 pick. We grab a future LT.
Sign Marvel for 6-8 weeks whatever he can survive, then go with Mr. rookie. Though Starks would be cheaper than a top 10 LT.
I'd rather go Marvel + rookie future than just 1 more expensive year with Max.

I'd rather go Marvel + rookie future than just 1 more expensive year with Max.

I think the organozation actually wants to win another championship. You don't do that with a hope and prayer that Marvel is healthy or a rokkie can play LT.

The org did the right thing.

Yes they did! They did what they had to do to make sure that we had an opportunity to compete for the big show next year as well! Max isn't top of the line talent but he was good enough this year and will be the same next!

[Chadman]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

As Chadman & Big O have said a couple of times, it's unlikely the Steelers could have gotten BETTER than Max Starks through FA (Carey & Barnes are no gaurentee to be better) or through the draft (picking at #32 the Steelers could look at the 5th, 6th or even the 7th rated OT- not ideal for immediate starting!) so getting Max back is a smart move.

The Steelers can now focus on one of the top interior OL, the top rated RT, DL or CB at #32.

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers franchise Starks

As Chadman & Big O have said a couple of times, it's unlikely the Steelers could have gotten BETTER than Max Starks through FA (Carey & Barnes are no gaurentee to be better) or through the draft (picking at #32 the Steelers could look at the 5th, 6th or even the 7th rated OT- not ideal for immediate starting!) so getting Max back is a smart move.

The Steelers can now focus on one of the top interior OL, the top rated RT, DL or CB at #32.

G'day mate. You are really smart and rationale. You remind me of...me