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Are there any offenses or defenses that wouldn't be better with better players? Coaches have to get the best they can from the players they have. Better coaches can do better with less than poor coaches.

[Slapstick]

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Yeah! Some Offensive Coordinators could win a Super Bowl with the players that the Steelers have...

[WoodleyofTroy]

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If the Steelers got an Offensive genius, wouldn't that clash with Ben's ego? I think having Arians, Ben feels more at ease, knowing that he plays just as much of a role than his own Coach does. I think it's just one of those things we're always going to have to deal with having Roethlisberger at QB.

I mean, Whisenhunt was good, but he wasn't great, and Ben still couldnt' get along with him. It's like he didn't feel in control.

So as much as I hate Arians, I've learned to deal with those frustrations. Maybe next year when he still continues to call running plays against top run defenses and **** secondaries, our RB's will make him look good by default, i.e. Jerome Bettis in his prime making OC's into head coaching candidates.

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If the Steelers got an Offensive genius, wouldn't that clash with Ben's ego? I think having Arians, Ben feels more at ease, knowing that he plays just as much of a role than his own Coach does. I think it's just one of those things we're always going to have to deal with having Roethlisberger at QB.

I mean, Whisenhunt was good, but he wasn't great, and Ben still couldnt' get along with him. It's like he didn't feel in control.

So as much as I hate Arians, I've learned to deal with those frustrations. Maybe next year when he still continues to call running plays against top run defenses and bad word secondaries, our RB's will make him look good by default, i.e. Jerome Bettis in his prime making OC's into head coaching candidates.

great call... We all remember Whiz and Ben butting heads... yet those 2 had great success. Ben is the type of guy who needs to have more power then the OC.. and deservedly so... but there are a lot of coaches who can't operate like that.

I think Ben needs to able to do what he does without the HC and OC screaming down his throat when it doesn't work. Now even I said they needed to yell at Ben when he was hurt and killing us during our 2 game skid. But I'm just a fan. I bet if I was on the sideline watching the game at full speed I would have a greater appreciation then I already do for what Ben does.

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Yeah! Some Offensive Coordinators could win a Super Bowl with the players that the Steelers have...

Yeah! And some teams are able to win SBs with worse offensive talent than the Steelers currently have..... I'm thinking that defense and STs might also contribute to winning and overcoming poor OCs. .

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Let's take that 3rd Quarter debacle that I was talking about earlier. Did anyone notice that there were 2 passes out of those 6 plays and neither one of them were actually into the endzone. The one Miller dropped and the other was supposedly to Carey Davis and that one was almost picked off and could've easily been returned the other way for a Cards TD. The other 4 were runs including a QB draw that got no where fast thanks to Kemo and his blocking.

Now on the flip side, when the chips are down and the game is on the line, they throw into the EZ to Holmes twice in each of the corners and the second one was the game winner as we all know.

It just seems like Arians tries to get too 'cute' down there sometimes with his play-calling. And I really wonder if those calls towards the end of game were really Ben's calls and not BA's. Holmes was the 3rd read there....It was up to Ben on that.

Hey Whiz, we have an OC that you can have now that yours flew the coop....

Use the same offense- Let Anderson call the game.

I don't think it's getting too cute.

I think the coaches realized that we were up by 13 points in the Superbowl. I think they realized that we had the best Defence in the league (top 5 all time?). I also think they realized that the Cards (like the Ravens) got as deep in the Playoffs as they did because they were averaging like 3 turn overs a game.

I think that the game plan in the third was to try to use up clock, to get a field goal or two if we could, and to not turn the ball over at all costs. Then on Defence, play a little softer. Who cares if they score, just make them use up clock. Without a great play on special teams, the hold on the saftey, and two outstanding TDs by Fitz this game plan works. The plan wasn't bad, the Cards just made 3 spectacular plays to get back into it.

Hats off to Warner and Fitz (and Boldin), but Ben and Holmes were the men of the hour.

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I think that the game plan in the third was to try to use up clock, to get a field goal or two if we could, and to not turn the ball over at all costs. Then on Defence, play a little softer. Who cares if they score, just make them use up clock.

During the Cowher years (back when we used to be able to run the ball) wasn't the above approach called "turtlling"? I'm not sure it works well when a team can't maintain possession by running the ball. But then that is just my observation, from Airens perspective the 2008 Steelers may have been a successful running team.

[eniparadoxgma]

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Yeah! Some Offensive Coordinators could win a Super Bowl with the players that the Steelers have...

No way.

Btw, where ya been, Slappy?