You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

[RuthlessBurgher]

Since the last few Arians' threads disintegrated rather precipitously, for those of you who would still like to discuss any positives or negatives about our coordinator may continue to do so here and long as you do so respectfully. Just because the last few threads about this topic turning into a name-calling-fest does not mean that the rest of us should not be allowed to voice our opinions on the matter in a civil manner. Have at it.

[Steeler Shades]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I think we need a new OC. This one is not very good.

[MeetJoeGreene]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I have a better idea... lets start one thread on Arians POSTIVES and one on Arians NEGATIVES and see which gets to 10 pages first!!

[Iron Shiek]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

Arians is like Willie Parker in a way. He shows flashes of greatness, then leaves you scratching your head for a while. Although I've never really cursed at Parker.

Maybe not a strong analogy, but you get my drift. I can love what he's doing for two drives, then the entire gameplan seems to change...while its not always seeming to be dictated by the flow of play. I don't get it sometimes.

[Flasteel]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I have a better idea... lets start one thread on Arians POSTIVES and one on Arians NEGATIVES and see which gets to 10 pages first!!

Let's do it.

[stlrz d]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I'm disappointed that he didn't get the HC job in KC.

[pfelix73]

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Agreed. Wish he would've moved on.

[feltdizz]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

Arians is like Willie Parker in a way. He shows flashes of greatness, then leaves you scratching your head for a while. Although I've never really cursed at Parker.

Maybe not a strong analogy, but you get my drift. I can love what he's doing for two drives, then the entire gameplan seems to change...while its not always seeming to be dictated by the flow of play. I don't get it sometimes.

I feel you on this... FWP is crazy good when the OL blocks and he has an obvious hole. But if the OL misses a block? 7 out of 10 times it's a one to 3 yard gain.

If our players don't execute Arians looks bad... the single back is what has harmed Arians.. it is equivelant to the 7 step drop Ben used to take.

[Iron Shiek]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

Arians is like Willie Parker in a way. He shows flashes of greatness, then leaves you scratching your head for a while. Although I've never really cursed at Parker.

Maybe not a strong analogy, but you get my drift. I can love what he's doing for two drives, then the entire gameplan seems to change...while its not always seeming to be dictated by the flow of play. I don't get it sometimes.

I feel you on this... FWP is crazy good when the OL blocks and he has an obvious hole. But if the OL misses a block? 7 out of 10 times it's a one to 3 yard gain.

If our players don't execute Arians looks bad... the single back is what has harmed Arians.. it is equivelant to the 7 step drop Ben used to take.

I'm glad we agree on this. Some of us obviously take it too far and immediately want him fired when he doesn't take a cue from the results and adjust a bit. That is what is so bloody frustrating.

[Jigawatts]

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I'm not a huge fan of Arians either, but as some pointed out, the offensive line is a huge
part of the problem. I don't think I've seen one successful screen pass this season and
that's all on the line (except for when FWP drops the ball.)

I've been screaming for Arians to call more screen passes, but every time one is called,
it's unsuccessful. Now I can see why we don't run them a lot. Can't blame Arians for the
personnel problems on the line, that's either the players or the line coach or both.

What I don't like at all, besides no fullback, is the empty set. Why not just line up
and tell the defense we'll be passing.

[feltdizz]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

They showed a set we ran in the SB when we had 5 guys on one side of the line and they still couldn't block 3 guys...

Miller was on the outside and doubled inside and the guy on his outside runs past him and makes the tackle.

maybe it's all about blocking inside but if the run play is inside why double down instead of kicking out.

our TE's are terrible blockers... this is a bigger problem then having a FB. Spaeth and Miller kill us on running plays.

[papillon]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

They showed a set we ran in the SB when we had 5 guys on one side of the line and they still couldn't block 3 guys...

Miller was on the outside and doubled inside and the guy on his outside runs past him and makes the tackle.

maybe it's all about blocking inside but if the run play is inside why double down instead of kicking out.

our TE's are terrible blockers... this is a bigger problem then having a FB. Spaeth and Miller kill us on running plays.

Spaeth kills us in the running game, multiple clips of good blocks by Miller were shown during the SB. Spaeth misses completely on occasion and when he does get his hands on the player across from him it isn't for long. He may be a decent option catching the ball next year, but, the defense will begin to realize real soon that the Steelers will not be running to Spaeth's side.

Pappy

[AngryAsian]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

Since we have BA and he's not going anywhere I'd like to see the following:

Less redundant plays ran up the middle with Willie when it is clear its not his strength

Get improved OL play

More plays that require Ben to roll out of the pocket

More plays that require an OG to pull to the outside and help with blocking on run plays to the outside with Willie, his obvious strength

Unleash the no-huddle in a non-emergent manner. Ben is surgeon with an opposing team's secondary when we're running it, why we don't incorporate it more often is beyond "head scratching" mode.

[Oviedo]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I intelligently predict that Arians will be the OC next year because the people who really know something and whose opinions really matter do not have a negative view of him. From a football standpoint they have more information of what really goes on and so that classifies them as being more intelligent than any of us.

We could however intelligently continue to beat the intelligent dead horse some more over the OC.

[papillon]

Re: You can discuss our offensive coordinator intelligently here

I intelligently predict that Arians will be the OC next year because the people who really know something and whose opinions really matter do not have a negative view of him. From a football standpoint they have more information of what really goes on and so that classifies them as being more intelligent than any of us.

We could however intelligently continue to beat the intelligent dead horse some more over the OC.

Those same intelligent people should thank their lucky stars that this year's version of the Steel Curtain plays on the same team as this year's 22nd ranked defense.

The offense showed up when it had to this year, I will give them that, but, there were many games that the offense kept the opponent in the game when the defense was holding the opponent to under 14 points.

Pappy