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  • DBinAL
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 37

    #16
    Re: Arians Reality Not Real

    Quit crying like a baby. Lewis hit Mendenhall fair and square. It was a football injury. Besides,Mendenhall hadn't done a thing up to his injury. So who has any idea if he would have done any better than Melwede Moore.

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    • Ozey74
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 2091

      #17
      Re: Arians Reality Not Real

      Originally posted by DBinAL
      Quit crying like a baby. Lewis hit Mendenhall fair and square. It was a football injury. Besides,Mendenhall hadn't done a thing up to his injury. So who has any idea if he would have done any better than Melwede Moore.

      I'm not saying or crying that Lewis took a cheap shot. Bottom line is this: a player that many of us hate put a hit that ended the season of our 1st round RB in Week 4. I will find any reason I can to dislike a Raven.

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      • Discipline of Steel
        Hall of Famer
        • Aug 2008
        • 3882

        #18
        Re: Arians Reality Not Real

        Originally posted by Ozey74
        Originally posted by DBinAL
        Quit crying like a baby. Lewis hit Mendenhall fair and square. It was a football injury. Besides,Mendenhall hadn't done a thing up to his injury. So who has any idea if he would have done any better than Melwede Moore.

        I'm not saying or crying that Lewis took a cheap shot. Bottom line is this: a player that many of us hate put a hit that ended the season of our 1st round RB in Week 4. I will find any reason I can to dislike a Raven.

        His stupid dance to get psyched up is all I need to dislike him, Raven or not.
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        • dirt
          Rookie
          • Dec 2008
          • 49

          #19
          Re: Arians Reality Not Real

          i can't believe people are actually trying to defend arians because we've been winning. this is the worst offense i have ever seen from the steelers. some of the games this year have been excruciating to watch because of our offensive ineptitude. the running game is non-existant. we've won quite a few close games because of our defense, not our offense. get rid of arians.
          "They are always talking about Gilbert Brown and nobody could move him. I put him on his back twice"

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          • Ozey74
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 2091

            #20
            Re: Arians Reality Not Real

            Originally posted by dirt
            i can't believe people are actually trying to defend arians because we've been winning.




            Our exceptional defense is picking up the slack our crappy offense. Pair this offense with the Bronco's D & you would have a disaster on your hands.
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            • MaxAMillion
              Backup
              • Dec 2008
              • 439

              #21
              Re: Arians Reality Not Real

              I think BA is well aware of what is reality. People seem to forget that Ben had 32 TD passes and just 11 interceptions last year. Willie Parker had rushed for 1300 yards before being injured. What changed? Obviously the OL changed. The best starter from last year left via free agency. Two other starters got injured and were basically lost for the year.

              The biggest problem facing this team is a dearth of talent along the OL. The steelers are trying to win with mid round draft choices along the OL. Check out other teams who have good OL. They all have invested either first day draft picks or FA money to support their OL.

              Placing all the blame on Arians for the offense's failures means that you ignore the negligence of the front office over a 10 year period. One first round pick on an OL since Faneca is not good enough.

              I am not a fan of Arians non fullback offense, but the problems on offense are not all scheme/playcalling related.
              The Steelers’ went through seven consecutive drafts (2003-09) without taking an offensive lineman in the first two rounds, the longest such streak by any franchise this century.

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              • Steeler Shades
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 724

                #22
                Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                Originally posted by MaxAMillion
                ..... the problems on offense are not all scheme/playcalling related.
                I haven't read a post yet that suggested ALL the problems with the offense are scheme/playcalling related. Most of us just think that there should be less problems with the scheme/playcalling, and more innovation and contributions from that area. Just because the O-Line needs to be fixed doesn't mean that the OC's issues don't ALSO need to be addressed.

                BTW - I wouldn't mind us fixing the O-Line coach, Colbert and possibly hiring a sado-masochist for a QB coach.....but that's just me and some people think I'm a little radical.
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                • TallyStiller
                  Starter
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 513

                  #23
                  Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                  It's tough to replace injured players and departed talent up front on the fly while playing a steady diet of the league's best defenses. Much of offensive play is continuity and confidence, and this team has played a schedule full of defenses that made it tough to generate those things. Bet we look a heck of a lot better next year vs. KC, Denver, Oakland, Detroit, Green Bay and Miami than we did this against the Giants, Eagles, Redskins, Colts, Cowgirls, and Jags.

                  We don't like the offensive scheme because it's not what we're used to, but I'll guarantee that our overall offensive output wouldn't have been any better this year with this personnel if we were still playing Cowher ball where we run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, throw on 3rd and long, then punt.

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                  • California-Steel
                    Backup
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 227

                    #24
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                    BA is a tool.
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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #25
                      Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                      Originally posted by MaxAMillion
                      I think BA is well aware of what is reality. People seem to forget that Ben had 32 TD passes and just 11 interceptions last year. Willie Parker had rushed for 1300 yards before being injured. What changed? Obviously the OL changed. The best starter from last year left via free agency. Two other starters got injured and were basically lost for the year.

                      The biggest problem facing this team is a dearth of talent along the OL. The steelers are trying to win with mid round draft choices along the OL. Check out other teams who have good OL. They all have invested either first day draft picks or FA money to support their OL.

                      Placing all the blame on Arians for the offense's failures means that you ignore the negligence of the front office over a 10 year period. One first round pick on an OL since Faneca is not good enough.

                      I am not a fan of Arians non fullback offense, but the problems on offense are not all scheme/playcalling related.
                      It's nice to read a poster who doesn't have a problem "misremembering." This was the same OC who gave us the best season ever for a Steelers QB and one of the best for a Steelers RB. The difference this year has been execution.

                      What Arians tries to run is not much different than what you see in NE or Indy but they have a better OL to execute it with and QB's that get rid of the ball quicker to check down receivers.

                      I agree with you about not being a fan of no FB but I would just prefer to see us get a TE capable of playing the lead blocker role because I think that offers so much more. I never was a fan of Dan Kreider's spastic attempts at trying to catch a football. A one dimensional FB taking up a roster spot every game day doesn't do anything for us.
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • Steeler Mafia
                        Starter
                        • May 2008
                        • 567

                        #26
                        Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                        While I would agree that most of our ineptitude on offense is from a lack of execution, don't think for one second that BA is not at fault. Time and time again, he chooses to run the most ignorant and idiotic play in short yards or goal situations. The truth is that he needs to go. I would bet the house that if Wiz was still our OC, we would have scored more points this year than under the moronic stylings of this mongoloid a$$ clown.

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                        • TallyStiller
                          Starter
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 513

                          #27
                          Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                          Watching SB X on CD that I got for Christmas... was a kid when I saw it 1st time, don't remember... This team we have now really reminds me of that one. We were losing in that game going to the 4th quarter... gave up one drive to start the game, then brought the hammer down. Botched punt snap, 2 missed fg's, turnovers, tons of mistakes. Bradshaw ran the ball, threw it into spots he shouldn't have, took some tremendous hits... in short, looked a lot like Ben does now.

                          Point is, we won anyways. Big plays in the passing game negated or made up for our day long inability to run the ball effectively.

                          Same can happen now, only more so, given the more restrictive rules governing pass D in today's game... in short, I support BA's attempts to bring this O into the modern era. I hated Cowher turtle ball, where we sat on a lead and tried to run out the clock... worked, like our run game this year, against bad teams, but not so much against good ones, which is why we always seemed to underachieve in the playoffs. I think this offense gives us a better chance to win in the postseason than we had in the glorious heyday of JB and BC.

                          I hope Arians learns more in the way of a play caller's touch, and I was wildly critical of his refusal to call screens/draws/shorter drops to defuse the blitz vs. Philly earlier in the year, but in terms of the overall concept of the offense he wants to achieve? Right there with him, and will be, as long as we're kissing a Lombardi trophy on Feb. 1.

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                          • DBinAL
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 37

                            #28
                            Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                            Where were all of these complaints last year? Roethlisberger lit it up with 31 or 32 TD passes and Parker was leading the league in rushing before his injury. It's been said before - the problems are many - no continuity in the line, no continuity in the RB position, playing tougher defenses, and just out-and-out poor execution. The play calling has not been much different than last year.

                            The games the Steelers lost were not lost because of the plays being called. The Steelers lost because the quarterback failed to perform up to his ability. What was Ben's QB rating in the 4 games that the Steelers lost?

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                            • stlrz d
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 9244

                              #29
                              Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                              There were plenty of complaints about Arians last year too.

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                #30
                                Re: Arians Reality Not Real

                                Originally posted by DBinAL
                                Where were all of these complaints last year? Roethlisberger lit it up with 31 or 32 TD passes and Parker was leading the league in rushing before his injury. It's been said before - the problems are many - no continuity in the line, no continuity in the RB position, playing tougher defenses, and just out-and-out poor execution. The play calling has not been much different than last year.

                                The games the Steelers lost were not lost because of the plays being called. The Steelers lost because the quarterback failed to perform up to his ability. What was Ben's QB rating in the 4 games that the Steelers lost?
                                This sort of says it all about the four losses:

                                Philly: 1 INT+8 sacks+2 fumbles+QB rating of 50.6
                                Giants: 4 INTs+5 sacks+1 fumble+QB rating of 38.5
                                Indy: 3 INTs+2 sacks+1 fumble+QB rating of 59.0
                                Titans: 2 INTs+5 sacks+4 fumbles+QB rating of 86.4

                                I think that 10 INTs and 20 sacks in those 4 losses are a much bigger factor than a play call.

                                Protect the QB and secure the ball is the key. That has nothing to do with the playcalling. That is about a weak OL and a QB making bad throws.
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