Pickett To Eagles

[Eich]

Yep.

We only got as much as we did for Kenny because he had 2 years left.

This is why I don't want us to draft a QB in the mid rounds. Lots of vets out there to come in and be backups.

we don?t need just a backup. We need the future. We need TWO QBs. One to be the backup. One lottery ticket for the future.

[Northern_Blitz]

And how do you think NE feels after getting only a 6th rd pick for a QB they drafted higher than Pickett?
Kinda like the market for used Teslas.

Yep.

We only got as much as we did for Kenny because he had 2 years left.

This is why I don't want us to draft a QB in the mid rounds. Lots of vets out there to come in and be backups.

[WindyCitySteel]

I am not sold on Russ either. We are not even considering Seattle shipped him out. How was his last 2 seasons there?

He was elite in 2020 in Seattle until he broke his finger. Hasn't been the same since, but we pretty good last year -- top half of the league. We get that, maybe bumped up a few slots in the right scheme, and that might be enough.

Need him to avoid TOs, hit big plays, and be clutch. Doesn't have to lead the league in anything.

[NorthCoast]

Don't forget Howell. Drafted by the Redskins in the 5th (#144) and after two years packed off to Seattle this off season

Good point Ovi. Howell was also touted in that class and a few posters wanted the Steelers to grab him in the draft.

[SS Laser]

The problem with this offense and this team right now is hiring people who were fired and failed elsewhere.

Matt Canada was a failed OC in college.
Trubisky failed in Chicago
Russ failed to stick in Denver
Arthur Smith failed as a HC in ATL

and we all keep looking back 3 years ago hoping they could recreate that magic for us.

At some point, we have to start hiring people on the rise if we want this offense to be great and innovative.

I am not sold on Russ either. We are not even considering Seattle shipped him out. How was his last 2 seasons there?
I will also compare him to Mason going forward. See how Mason does to see if Russ plays better then that. And yes I know Mason is the back up right now. That could change this season. And I was not a Mason fan.
He proved something those last few games.

A lot of coaches fail as a head coach. Last good OC we had was a failed HC. I like former HC?s on staff so far.
proven to be good coaches here.

[SS Laser]

Agreed. I mean, I can?t fault our FO for bringing in Russ for a dollar and some change but Kenny lost his job to injury and only had 1.5 games without Canada. The. he is said to be QB1 with competition and finds out about Russ on IG and is now told he is QB2.

Damn right I want traded. They are treating him like Rudolph. No way I would stick with an organization who just lied to me.

Things change so I don?t blame our FO for grabbing Russ but if this is how you do it.. I?ll find another team to be a backup on.

Now we have Russ and who else? We screwed this up if Russ doesn?t knock it out the park. Guess we are now drafting Penix or.. gulp, Nix or JJ??? Maybe we gamble this year and draft a QB next year in the first?

If it works Khan is a genius. If not, oh boy?

At this point any of the draftable QB?s you mentioned have a good chance to match Kenny or be a upgrade.
He has not been good in a crap offense yes. But I mentioned before. Nothing stood out but his low int and 4th quarter come backs. And now wanting out to be a back up? No intestinal fortitude in a QB! Don?t want that. Need to be a dawg. This also points to young guys can be trouble. You stink in a crap offense come back prove you don?t stink in the next.

[NorthCoast]

I think you're right.

It's just sad that the return on both Kenny and DJ was so low.

And how do you think NE feels after getting only a 6th rd pick for a QB they drafted higher than Pickett?
Kinda like the market for used Teslas.

[Northern_Blitz]

Yes, you're correct, we gave up the 120th pick and received the 98th pick plus 2 - 7th round picks next year. Technically, they didn't give up the 98th pick, it was part of the swap. The Steelers gained 22 spots, but, my thoughts still stand that the Steelers got about as much as they were going to get for Pickett.

Pappy

I think you're right.

It's just sad that the return on both Kenny and DJ was so low.

[Northern_Blitz]

Reports that Kenny cancelled an out of town workout with WRs the day after we signed Wilson.

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/03/dulac-kenny-pickett-cancelled-workout-with-receivers-after-russell-wilson-agreed-to-join-steelers/

[papillon]

They didn't give up their 3rd. They got back our 4th and Kenny.

Yes, you're correct, we gave up the 120th pick and received the 98th pick plus 2 - 7th round picks next year. Technically, they didn't give up the 98th pick, it was part of the swap. The Steelers gained 22 spots, but, my thoughts still stand that the Steelers got about as much as they were going to get for Pickett.

Pappy

[Northern_Blitz]

The Eagles were willing to give up the third round pick for a backup quarterback. Any team that is looking for a starting quarterback probably wasn't interested in Pickett. Pickett's market was as a backup. I think the Steelers did about as good as they were going to do with Pickett based off of his performance for 2 years. Pickett simply wasn't a quarterback you could lean on when needed or, at least, that's what it seemed like.

We complain that the Steelers hold on to high draft picks too long, then they move away from one quickly and we're complaining that they didn't get enough. They got what the market was offering. He wasn't going to lead the Steelers to a deep playoff run or Super Bowl while Watt and Minkah are in their prime. Khan made the moves he thinks will not only get the Steelers into the playoffs but possibly a run at the title.

Pappy

Maybe it's worth remember that they didn't give up their 3rd. They traded down from teh 3rd to the 4th to get Kenny.

[Oviedo]

Excellent points pappy. If you think about the 2022 draft class the pick in the 3rd (#98 ) is close to where the other QBs were drafted in 2022:

Pick #20- Pickett (overdrafted)
Pick #74 - Ridder (considered a 'good value pick')
Pick #86 - Willis (story still being written)
Pick #94 - Corral (waived by CAR, went AWOL after signing with NE)
Pick #137 - Zappe (in and out under BB)

Don't forget Howell. Drafted by the Redskins in the 5th (#144) and after two years packed off to Seattle this off season

[papillon]

Excellent points pappy. If you think about the 2022 draft class the pick in the 3rd (#98 ) is close to where the other QBs were drafted in 2022:

Pick #20- Pickett (overdrafted)
Pick #74 - Ridder (considered a 'good value pick')
Pick #86 - Willis (story still being written)
Pick #94 - Corral (waived by CAR, went AWOL after signing with NE)
Pick #137 - Zappe (in and out under BB)

True, I didn't even look at where the others were drafted but Pickett would have fit in nicely with those selections. The Steelers over drafted Pickett and then got something for him before it was potentially too late.

Pappy

[NorthCoast]

The Eagles were willing to give up the third round pick for a backup quarterback. Any team that is looking for a starting quarterback probably wasn't interested in Pickett. Pickett's market was as a backup. I think the Steelers did about as good as they were going to do with Pickett based off of his performance for 2 years. Pickett simply wasn't a quarterback you could lean on when needed or, at least, that's what it seemed like.

We complain that the Steelers hold on to high draft picks too long, then they move away from one quickly and we're complaining that they didn't get enough. They got what the market was offering. He wasn't going to lead the Steelers to a deep playoff run or Super Bowl while Watt and Minkah are in their prime. Khan made the moves he thinks will not only get the Steelers into the playoffs but possibly a run at the title.

Pappy

Excellent points pappy. If you think about the 2022 draft class the pick in the 3rd (#98 ) is close to where the other QBs were drafted in 2022:

Pick #20- Pickett (overdrafted)
Pick #74 - Ridder (considered a 'good value pick')
Pick #86 - Willis (story still being written)
Pick #94 - Corral (waived by CAR, went AWOL after signing with NE)
Pick #137 - Zappe (in and out under BB)

[papillon]

The situation changed. Once they got Wilson then the facts changed. If this indeed got Pickett's panties twisted then that is just further proof that he doesn't have the mental toughness to be a franchise QB.

Read what Bradshaw went through with Noll. Pickett would have had an emotional breakdown if he had to endure that.

No lies told here, Bradshaw was as tough mentally as he was physically, Pickett not so much of either.

Pappy