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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 15675

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    This better work. If not, while cheap.. its sets us back a year.
    Going into a season with Kenny and Mason/Tanny/Brissett sets us back a year.

    Worst case, they start Russ, it doesn't work, and they hand the job to Kenny again in 2025.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27482

      #17
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      Going into a season with Kenny and Mason/Tanny/Brissett sets us back a year.


      Worst case, they start Russ, it doesn't work, and they hand the job to Kenny again in 2025.
      Not sure how a failed year is different with Wilson. Its still a fail.

      This needs to work.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • T.Ferguson
        Pro Bowler
        • Sep 2021
        • 2377

        #18
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        This better work. If not, while cheap.. its sets us back a year.
        What defines working out? Are the Steelers just trying to win a playoff game at this point under the directive of Rooney? Is that the ceiling here for one season? Oh boy.

        I'm too lazy can someone start a poll what are the expectations with Wilson for next season.

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        • Joel Buchsbaum
          Legend
          • Jan 2021
          • 7744

          #19
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          This better work. If not, while cheap.. its sets us back a year.
          How so? Wilson is our starter for a year. Pickett is still under contact for 3 more years.
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • Joel Buchsbaum
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            • Jan 2021
            • 7744

            #20
            Originally posted by T.Ferguson
            What defines working out? Are the Steelers just trying to win a playoff game at this point under the directive of Rooney? Is that the ceiling here for one season? Oh boy.

            I'm too lazy can someone start a poll what are the expectations with Wilson for next season.
            I say we will win a playoff game now. The first time is seven years.
            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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            • Buzz
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              • Dec 2017
              • 8358

              #21
              Originally posted by T.Ferguson
              What defines working out? Are the Steelers just trying to win a playoff game at this point under the directive of Rooney? Is that the ceiling here for one season? Oh boy.
              This is what I'm reading in several places ... the goal is to win a playoff game.

              I guess that's better than having a goal of being over .500 for the season, but I'd sure rather have them looking to build a true Super Bowl contender.

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              • Oviedo
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                • May 2008
                • 23816

                #22
                I know some have the immediate instinct to look for the negative in everything, but there is no downside to this signing.

                I mentioned in another thread that I think the front office rightly sees that we have a three (3) year window before Watt, Minkah and others start to fade. They aren't willing to wait until Pickett "gets it". Just looking at last season, Wilson is 10x better than Pickett. I love that the organization is saying win now. Just remember Art's comments after the season.

                INn reality, this is more than a one year solution unless Wilson falls apart. This is a "prove it" but likely he has at least three good years in him.
                Last edited by Oviedo; 03-11-2024, 10:09 AM.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Chucktownsteeler
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6849

                  #23
                  Yes, and in this case "Win-Now" doesn't mean mortgaging the future with a large cap hit or losing valuable DRAFT Capitol.

                  Truly a win-win scenario.
                  Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                  I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                  • Dwinsgames
                    Backup
                    • Aug 2021
                    • 426

                    #24
                    you all can say what you want but at the end of the day if Russell Wilson can replicate what he did last year statistically here in Pittsburgh 66.4% completion percentage 26 TDs and 8 ints ( double the amount of TD passes we had last year and less INTs ) that spells 3-4 more wins IMO and that changes the entire playoff picture ... football is about matchups so instead of playing the 1 or 2 seed you potentially are the 1 or 2 seed playing the 7 or 8th seed and at home ..... that likely roadmaps you into the conference championship game instead of 1 and done ....

                    we do not need superstar play at QB with the way our defense plays we just have to have a legit NFL QB who can make some plays ...Wilson can do that .....

                    for those saying its wasting KP , that is laughable what it is a waste is playing Pickett and letting the prime years of TJ and Minkah go by the way side and the final years of Cam go down the drain ... thats beyond wasteful that tragic
                    Last edited by Dwinsgames; 03-11-2024, 10:21 AM.
                    @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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                    • Buzz
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 8358

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I know some have the immediate instinct to look for the negative in everything, but there is no downside to this signing.

                      I mentioned in another thread that I think the front office rightly sees that we have a three (3) year window before Watt, Minkah and others start to fade. They aren't willing to wait until Pickett "gets it". Just looking at last season, Wilson is 10x better than Pickett. I love that the organization is saying win now. Just remember Art's comments after the season.

                      INn reality, this is more than a one year solution unless Wilson falls apart. This is a "prove it" but likely he has at least three good years in him.
                      You think we'll have Wilson on board for 3 years? Interesting.
                      If he has a good season, I don't see the Steelers paying what he will demand for his next contract. If he has a bad season, I don't see the Steelers keeping him on. I think this is a one-year rental.

                      We shall see.

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                      • NorthCoast
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26626

                        #26
                        Wilson is what Trubisky was supposed to be, a bridge QB that could win games until Pickett is ready to make the leap (or fail).

                        And if Pickett balls out in preseason and wins the job outright, then the Steelers have the best backup in the division.

                        The Steelers have been consistent in how they view the QB situation:

                        "view Kenny as a QB1, but will need to compete"
                        "will bring in a veteran with experience"
                        "expect this is a big season for Kenny"

                        The moves they made haven't changed their position. It's outside the org that people are interpreting this as something negative for KP. You have to applaud the org for meeting these expectations in the least expensive manner possible.

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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
                          • 27482

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          Wilson is what Trubisky was supposed to be, a bridge QB that could win games until Pickett is ready to make the leap (or fail).

                          And if Pickett balls out in preseason and wins the job outright, then the Steelers have the best backup in the division.

                          The Steelers have been consistent in how they view the QB situation:

                          "view Kenny as a QB1, but will need to compete"
                          "will bring in a veteran with experience"
                          "expect this is a big season for Kenny"

                          The moves they made haven't changed their position. It's outside the org that people are interpreting this as something negative for KP. You have to applaud the org for meeting these expectations in the least expensive manner possible.

                          Its 1.2 Mill. Any team would be a fool not to give him a chance at the vet minimum.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Dwinsgames
                            Backup
                            • Aug 2021
                            • 426

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NorthCoast
                            Wilson is what Trubisky was supposed to be, a bridge QB that could win games until Pickett is ready to make the leap (or fail).

                            And if Pickett balls out in preseason and wins the job outright, then the Steelers have the best backup in the division.

                            The Steelers have been consistent in how they view the QB situation:

                            "view Kenny as a QB1, but will need to compete"
                            "will bring in a veteran with experience"
                            "expect this is a big season for Kenny"

                            The moves they made haven't changed their position. It's outside the org that people are interpreting this as something negative for KP. You have to applaud the org for meeting these expectations in the least expensive manner possible.
                            dream on ........

                            They didnt bring Wilson in to compete with Kenny , they brought Wilson in to be QB1 , Kenny was / is a bust , the team and its players have no confidence in his ability to lead this team hence why he sat the bench late last year while healthy .... Pickett never should have been a 1st round pick ( I said that in real time back then )
                            @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 16000

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                              I think it will also be interesting to see if it has an impact on how we spend our early round picks.

                              Do we now prioritize guys who are more ready over guys with higher ceilings?
                              Interesting question
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                              • NorthCoast
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26626

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Dwinsgames
                                dream on ........

                                They didnt bring Wilson in to compete with Kenny , they brought Wilson in to be QB1 , Kenny was / is a bust , the team and its players have no confidence in his ability to lead this team hence why he sat the bench late last year while healthy .... Pickett never should have been a 1st round pick ( I said that in real time back then )
                                That's your intepretation. Albert Breer had this to say:

                                "The Steelers' one-year deal with signing Russell Wilson is, as expected, at the $1.21 million league minimum, per sources. Pittsburgh was very clear setting expectations with Wilson on his visit. He knows what it is. He'll come in and compete."

                                Now having said this, I would be mildly shocked if Pickett outplays Wilson for the start. It would tell me that Wilson has fallen off a lot more than people realize.

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