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  • Northern_Blitz
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    no worries.. the fact we had over 400 yards for the first time without Canada showed that play calling was really an issue.
    And also that Najee was determined to have a very good game after putting the nail in Canada's coffin.

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  • feltdizz
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    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Deville I just looked at the play again and wow.
    My bad, I really thought that pass was a longer throw.

    Sorry Dizz for tearing into you. Your point is taken.
    no worries.. the fact we had over 400 yards for the first time without Canada showed that play calling was really an issue.

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  • Eich
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    Originally posted by Starlifter
    It took Bradshaw almost 5 years before he cemented himself. It sucks the clock ticks much faster these days on rookies, just ask baker. But life isn?t fair and at least none of them will ever have to work an off season job.
    This is why, when you draft a QB in the first round, you put him in the best possible position to succeed ASAP. We did the opposite. We stuck with an inept coordinator. Had an Oline with significant holes and thrust Kenny into the offense after a failed Mitch revival experiment and then apparently tattooed "DO NOT THROW INTERCEPTIONS" on his arm. All seemingly in the name of maintaining the winning regular season record.

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  • Captain Lemming
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    Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
    wouldn't this one have made another completion AND a touchdown?

    (it was snapped from the 15, which makes it a RZ play....)

    for his game and half, both were over 70% completion (which were the only 2 times he hit the mark) with longs of 43 in one game and 38 in the other. The game was tied 3-3 with the team on the 3 yard line when Pickett was injured... he was kinda balling out
    Deville I just looked at the play again and wow.
    My bad, I really thought that pass was a longer throw.

    Sorry Dizz for tearing into you. Your point is taken.

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  • SteelerOfDeVille
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    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    The topic HERE is not about Kenny?s incompletion. NOT even a red zone throw.

    Kenny had ONE COMPLETION for 7 yards in the red zone AFTER Canada when YOU claim he was balling out.

    Your DISTRACTION from my actual point does not change that fact.
    wouldn't this one have made another completion AND a touchdown?

    (it was snapped from the 15, which makes it a RZ play....)

    for his game and half, both were over 70% completion (which were the only 2 times he hit the mark) with longs of 43 in one game and 38 in the other. The game was tied 3-3 with the team on the 3 yard line when Pickett was injured... he was kinda balling out

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  • Dwinsgames
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    Originally posted by Starlifter
    It took Bradshaw almost 5 years before he cemented himself. It sucks the clock ticks much faster these days on rookies, just ask baker. But life isn?t fair and at least none of them will ever have to work an off season job.
    Bradshaw was also 22 years old his rookie year so you can afford to wait a little longer when the player is young , also during that time it was pre free agency so a team could have you as long as they wanted unchallenged so you could take your time and it not cost you a brinks truck full of cash to do it ....

    Pickett was a 24 year old rookie in the free agency era and teams can not afford to take forever with players to develop esp when already old rookies and 1st round picks the $$ starts adding up quickly ( see Mac Jones 3 years and traded for peanuts) and he is younger than Pickett by half a year and has a year more played in the league he was worth a 6th round pick ( pretty large fall from first round grace but he is a one year rental for jacksonville because they are not going to pursue his 5th year option at that price to sit behind Lawrence )

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  • Starlifter
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    It took Bradshaw almost 5 years before he cemented himself. It sucks the clock ticks much faster these days on rookies, just ask baker. But life isn’t fair and at least none of them will ever have to work an off season job.

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  • Captain Lemming
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    lmao.. even the text says it.

    DJ has to catch that.

    Look at some of the TD?s Wilson threw last year and what the WR?s had to do to secure them.

    Don?t use a game where a WR drops a TD?s to ask why he didn?t throw a TD without Canada.
    The topic HERE is not about Kenny?s incompletion. NOT even a red zone throw.

    Kenny had ONE COMPLETION for 7 yards in the red zone AFTER Canada when YOU claim he was balling out.

    Your DISTRACTION from my actual point does not change that fact.

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  • Northern_Blitz
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    lmao.. even the text says it.

    DJ has to catch that.

    Look at some of the TD?s Wilson threw last year and what the WR?s had to do to secure them.

    Don?t use a game where a WR drops a TD?s to ask why he didn?t throw a TD without Canada.
    Every QB has plays that go like this.

    I think it's that we get so few good attempts / plays in the red zone with Canada / Kenny that mistakes on them really hurt us.

    This play was 2nd and 2.

    Teams with good offenses still get the 1st (or score) on 3rd down here. Or at least kick a FG.

    We fumbled.

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  • Northern_Blitz
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    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
    So tired of hearing about this play. Should it have been a TD? Yes. You know what else it should have been?

    Thrown on time. You can see DJ has his flat-footed man beat at the 7-yard line. He doesn't touch the ball until he's 8 yards deep in the EZ, spinning around to catch the off-target throw.

    Should have been a TD because he should have caught it.

    Should have been an easy TD because it should have been thrown better.

    I think a lot of the anti-DJ comments are at least partly due to the not great QB play he's had.

    I think his rookie year was the year Ben got hurt. We haven't had much good passing since.

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  • NorthCoast
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Wilson with a terrible OC in 2022 had 16 TD?s and 11 INT?s.

    If we can get the good Russ it works. If not, prepare for a lot of sacks, fumbles and positivity in pressers that frustrates fans after losses.
    Threw for 3500+ yds averaging 230+ yds/gm that season. And he lost only 2 fumbles that season. In some ways, Payton was a worse OC for him than Hackett. He wanted Wilson to play a particular way and it didn't fit with his game.

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  • WindyCitySteel
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    lmao.. even the text says it.

    DJ has to catch that.

    Look at some of the TD’s Wilson threw last year and what the WR’s had to do to secure them.

    Don’t use a game where a WR drops a TD’s to ask why he didn’t throw a TD without Canada.
    That's ONE play. How many other plays did he not make because he can't anticipate?

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  • Eich
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    lmao.. even the text says it.

    DJ has to catch that.

    Look at some of the TD?s Wilson threw last year and what the WR?s had to do to secure them.

    Don?t use a game where a WR drops a TD?s to ask why he didn?t throw a TD without Canada.
    And it's not like the first game without Canada suddenly produced a great playBOOK. We were using the same "schemes" that Canada developed. And there was still a significant improvement in the offense, going for over 400 yards for the first time in forever.

    No one really knows how good/bad Wilson would have been under Matt Canada. We do know that Ben, Kenny and Mitch couldn't score much under Canada.

    Kenny might actually suck. But the Steelers did their absolute worst job possible of putting him in a position to succeed. And we still have more questions about his ability than answers. And if Wilson comes in this season and throws 26 TDs, Kenny is going to take the brunt of the blame for the difference and we still won't know what we really have in our former #1 pick.
    Last edited by Eich; 03-11-2024, 03:58 PM.

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  • feltdizz
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    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
    So tired of hearing about this play. Should it have been a TD? Yes. You know what else it should have been?

    Thrown on time. You can see DJ has his flat-footed man beat at the 7-yard line. He doesn't touch the ball until he's 8 yards deep in the EZ, spinning around to catch the off-target throw.

    lmao.. even the text says it.

    DJ has to catch that.

    Look at some of the TD’s Wilson threw last year and what the WR’s had to do to secure them.

    Don’t use a game where a WR drops a TD’s to ask why he didn’t throw a TD without Canada.
    Last edited by feltdizz; 03-11-2024, 02:27 PM.

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  • Captain Lemming
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    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Lets not talk about the Cincinnati game like you didn?t see DJ screw Kenny and company out of a red zone possession and TD.

    But that is the past. Let?s see what Russ and Kenny can do in a Smith offense.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with his RED ZONE incompletions or the fact that his ONE completion did nothing but make a field goal 7 yards shorter.

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