Steelers High on WVU Zach Frazier

[Jooser]

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'A Mike Webster Type': C Zach Frazier's "Got Steelers Written All Over Him"

Decent article by the site that shall not be mentioned.....

[Shawn]

The more I watch Frazier the less I like him. I now have Barton as my number one Center, with JPJ only trailing him due to medical concerns. Next I have bumped Pran into my top 3 with Frazier as my 4th. Wouldnt shock me in the slightest if Pran comes off the board earlier than Frazier. Also do t sleep on a later round Bortolini. Guy is a technician.

[hawaiiansteel]

The more I watch Frazier the less I like him. I now have Barton as my number one Center, with JPJ only trailing him due to medical concerns. Next I have bumped Pran into my top 3 with Frazier as my 4th. Wouldnt shock me in the slightest if Pran comes off the board earlier than Frazier.

nah.

my time-based prediction is that Zach Frazier goes a round earlier than SVP.

[Shawn]

nah.

my time-based prediction is that Zach Frazier goes a round earlier than SVP.

Maybe. But I dont see a Pro Bowl center in Frazier. I think he will be a serviceable starter by year 2.

[Northern_Blitz]

The more I watch Frazier the less I like him. I now have Barton as my number one Center, with JPJ only trailing him due to medical concerns. Next I have bumped Pran into my top 3 with Frazier as my 4th. Wouldnt shock me in the slightest if Pran comes off the board earlier than Frazier. Also do t sleep on a later round Bortolini. Guy is a technician.

Seems like most placed have Frazier as 3rd. And Van Pran at 4th (not as a day 1 starter)

I wonder if the Steelers feel like they'd be OK with Van Pran and think either he or Frasier will be around in the 3rd?

[Oviedo]

If OC is the direction with the first pick, there is still this dude to consider if JPJ is off the board. Or maybe as the article suggests, regardless if JPJ is there.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/new-...burgh-steelers

I think Barton is a better choice than JPJ because when you hear injury concerns like we have it means: 1. There is an issue. 2. Someone is trying to drive down his value

[Shawn]

Seems like most placed have Frazier as 3rd. And Van Pran at 4th (not as a day 1 starter)

I wonder if the Steelers feel like they'd be OK with Van Pran and think either he or Frasier will be around in the 3rd?

Honestly I have a third round grade on both Frazier and Pran. I?m giving Pran a slight edge. I like both players and think both will make above average NFL centers. But anyone drafting Pran or Frazier before the late second is reaching for need. If either are the pick in the second I won?t cry. But the Steelers shouldnt pass on a talent like Cooper if he is sitting there for Pran or Frazier. I would rather grab Barton or JPJ and lock in a center with the true upside of a first round center. Then roll with Sweat, highest ranked DB or Cooper if still there. Then grab a OT like Paul or Fisher. I could really get behind this: 1) Barton/JPJ-C 2) Sweat/Cooper-DT/ILB 3) Paul/Fisher-OT

[Shawn]

I think Barton is a better choice than JPJ because when you hear injury concerns like we have it means: 1. There is an issue. 2. Someone is trying to drive down his value

Yeah it always makes me nervous. But if the Steelers do their homework and they are comfortable with JPJ then Im good with it. I really do like Barton. But it would be the first time in a long long time that the Steelers first didn’t come from a power school.

[Flasteel]

Yeah it always makes me nervous. But if the Steelers do their homework and they are comfortable with JPJ then Im good with it. I really do like Barton. But it would be the first time in a long long time that the Steelers first didn’t come from a power school.

That's the thing. They are doing their homework and they have a draft board that might differ from what we all think. I guarantee they are looking at the injury potential for all players, as well as the value in going with an OC in the first or a RT and getting an OC in the second or even third round. They may have Van Pran rated very highly and feel good about him as a year-one starter. I'm sure Kahn has spoken with every GM from teams who pick at 21 or higher about trading back to get an OC in the first and has spoken with every one of them from picks 40-50 about moving up in the second to get one.

I think I'm going to be comfortable with whatever move they make, as long as they are focusing on the trenches with those first two picks. It's going to be fun watching how it all unfolds.

[Ernie]

Honestly I have a third round grade on both Frazier and Pran. I?m giving Pran a slight edge. I like both players and think both will make above average NFL centers. But anyone drafting Pran or Frazier before the late second is reaching for need. If either are the pick in the second I won?t cry. But the Steelers shouldnt pass on a talent like Cooper if he is sitting there for Pran or Frazier. I would rather grab Barton or JPJ and lock in a center with the true upside of a first round center. Then roll with Sweat, highest ranked DB or Cooper if still there. Then grab a OT like Paul or Fisher. I could really get behind this: 1) Barton/JPJ-C 2) Sweat/Cooper-DT/ILB 3) Paul/Fisher-OT

Frazier might be the 1st Center off the board. JPJ's stock is sinking.. and, lets be honest.. Barton is not a proven college Center.
For once, id rather taken the proven player (Frazier, Pran) as opposed to the one hit wonder (JPJ) or relative unknown with a high upside "Position flexible" (Barton)

[Jooser]

Frazier was a 4 year starter at WVU. He's a proven commodity. He didn't get injured until the last game of his senior year and had to miss the bowl game vs. North Carolina.

[NorthCoast]

Frazier might be the 1st Center off the board. JPJ's stock is sinking.. and, lets be honest.. Barton is not a proven college Center.
For once, id rather taken the proven player (Frazier, Pran) as opposed to the one hit wonder (JPJ) or relative unknown with a high upside "Position flexible" (Barton)

If you want a proven player without question marks then draft the best OT available because there are more than a few worthy @ #20. There are probably five OTs that grade out better than the highest graded center.

[WindyCitySteel]

I think Barton is a better choice than JPJ because when you hear injury concerns like we have it means: 1. There is an issue. 2. Someone is trying to drive down his value

What are JPJ's injury concerns? That he faked a hammy to get out Sr Bowl practices after he dominated for a few days?

[Oviedo]

If you want a proven player without question marks then draft the best OT available because there are more than a few worthy @ #20. There are probably five OTs that grade out better than the highest graded center.

Exactly how I feel. The top end of this OT class is very high end. One of the best. Don't ignore that.

[hawaiiansteel]

51. Pittsburgh Steelers: Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia

James Daniels could move to center for the Steelers, but they could use another option.

The 6-foot-3, 313-pound Frazier is a physical and tough interior offensive lineman. He was a multi-year starter at West Virginia and enters the next level with a good amount of experience. Frazier is a former wrestler with strong hands and a serious ability to sustain blocks and tie up defenders. Frazier can also play guard given that he was a starter there as a freshman before moving to center for his other seasons with the Mountaineers.

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