Fix The Freaking Offense

[Mr.wizard]

They are doing this right, they already have the QB they just drafted on the team. Now get the coordinator, I think when they are talking about bringing in competition for Kenny, what they are really saying is they want to bring in an established vet to help Kenny. Rudolph will be gone, he won't get a big offer, he will get a chance to compete for a backup somewhere but he isn't going to be a starter or land a big contract.

[WindyCitySteel]

They are doing this right, they already have the QB they just drafted on the team. Now get the coordinator, I think when they are talking about bringing in competition for Kenny, what they are really saying is they want to bring in an established vet to help Kenny. Rudolph will be gone, he won't get a big offer, he will get a chance to compete for a backup somewhere but he isn't going to be a starter or land a big contract.

If they were doing it right they wouldn't have kept Canada for 2.5 seasons.

[NorthCoast]

If they were doing it right they wouldn't have kept Canada for 2.5 seasons.

If they are doing it right they wouldn't have hired Canada.

btw, I noticed on the table I posted above the Steelers were ranked 22nd on offense and 22nd on defense. So when Tomlin said he 'wants balance' it's a done deal...

[WindyCitySteel]

Spot on. Tomlin got to 10 wins with a bottom ranked QB. What could he get with an average QB? 12, 13 wins?

Beat NE and AZ and he's at 12. Why do you seem to suggest that this QB play is being foisted upon him, like he's some kind of victim here? He was 100% in on Canada and still is on Pickett. This is the team he built, the team he wants.

He could walk into Art's office tomorrow and tell him they need a QB and they'd trade up in the draft and get one.

He just doesn't think they need one.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

It's obvious he is although I'm starting to think Rooney in some ways is even worse. He is good friends with Tomlin and I don't think at this point that is good for the team. Watch Rooney say Tomlin is welcome to coach the team as long as he likes and how happy he is, etc. It's starting to feel like a slap in the face to the fanbase. I get it, we're all spoiled but is wanting just a playoff win or two asking for too much while Tomlin is paid 10-15 mil whatever it is a year?

Honestly I wonder if I'll just start watching less and less games, NFL sucks now and I missed a couple of Steeler games already this season. It's very hard to get excited about a team that is so predictable and boring at this point. Call me a bad fan but the Steelers are a business and they've been putting out a subpar product for some time now.

That seems to be the reality with Art Rooney II.

The NFL is in transition with an overrated Qb, getting big 2nd contracts, meanwhile the replacements in Rudolph and Browning, and to a degree Minshew are doing shockingly well.

Hurts has turned into a pumpkin, the often injured and shrimp like Murray is still mediocre, the " hands off " Watson, and the older soon to be 36 R., Willson are well ... sucking up their teams cap space.

Gone are the QB's in the class of Rothlisbeger, Brees, Manning, heck even Rivers is better than the lot that is around today.

You can say Allen, Mahomes and Purdy are the next phase.

The game of football is shifting to 1. QB's are worth the cap space. 2. Good offensive coaching. A must have at the head coach spot. 3. Great pass rushers. and 4 Good tackles. The rest of the spots including a cornerback off his first contract have all been downgraded. A receiver in his second contact? okay if he is elite, then pay him.

All other positions are stock down, don't speed the big $$$ on a long team 2nd contact.

Unfortunately for us Art Rooney II is the owner. He makes the calls on the head coach and he is buddies with Mike Tomlin.

[Buzz]

If they are doing it right they wouldn't have hired Canada.

btw, I noticed on the table I posted above the Steelers were ranked 22nd on offense and 22nd on defense. So when Tomlin said he 'wants balance' it's a done deal...

We're actually getting better ROI on offense than on D -- everyone points to the problems with our offense (true, it needs work), but few are talking about how we're underachieving on (top paid) defense
I think we need to bring in, not just a new OC, but a new DC from outside the organization
complete overhaul in philosophy needed
And give Tomlin less say, and Khan & Andy more say, in what players we bring in

[feltdizz]

That seems to be the reality with Art Rooney II.

The NFL is in transition with an overrated Qb, getting big 2nd contracts, meanwhile the replacements in Rudolph and Browning, and to a degree Minshew are doing shockingly well.

Hurts has turned into a pumpkin, the often injured and shrimp like Murray is still mediocre, the " hands off " Watson, and the older soon to be 36 R., Willson are well ... sucking up their teams cap space.

Gone are the QB's in the class of Rothlisbeger, Brees, Manning, heck even Rivers is better than the lot that is around today.

You can say Allen, Mahomes and Purdy are the next phase.

The game of football is shifting to 1. QB's are worth the cap space. 2. Good offensive coaching. A must have at the head coach spot. 3. Great pass rushers. and 4 Good tackles. The rest of the spots including a cornerback off his first contract have all been downgraded. A receiver in his second contact? okay if he is elite, then pay him.

All other positions are stock down, don't speed the big $$$ on a long team 2nd contact.

Unfortunately for us Art Rooney II is the owner. He makes the calls on the head coach and he is buddies with Mike Tomlin.

Hurts had a down year after making a SB. Iggles lost their coordinators and it showed on both sides of the ball. I?m not sure if this is the future or if its SB hangover. That D was awful.

Murray just got back from injury. Wish he looked worse against us.

Wilson actually had a decent year, he just got too much money and Sean Payton didn?t like him. He had 26TDs and 8INTs when he was benched.

Lamar..we shall see today but they are the 1 seed and he is going to win MVP.

Watson looks like a bad contract

[feltdizz]

We're actually getting better ROI on offense than on D -- everyone points to the problems with our offense (true, it needs work), but few are talking about how we're underachieving on (top paid) defense
I think we need to bring in, not just a new OC, but a new DC from outside the organization
complete overhaul in philosophy needed
And give Tomlin less say, and Khan & Andy more say, in what players we bring in

Thank you, while we all want the offense to perform better the defense is the problem. Sure, they got timely turnovers and forced FG’s but they gave up tons of yards and struggled to get off the field on 3rd down. Way too many blown coverages IMO.

[NorthCoast]

Beat NE and AZ and he's at 12. Why do you seem to suggest that this QB play is being foisted upon him, like he's some kind of victim here? He was 100% in on Canada and still is on Pickett. This is the team he built, the team he wants.

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I don't suggest anything of the sort about Pickett. The Steelers needed a QB and took who they thought was the best in the class. It turned out the class sucked other than Purdy, who came out of nowhere. At this point they are trying to make do because they have too many other needs for this team to actually be able to compete. Think about it. Let's say they got a QB. Do you really think this defense can hang against the best offenses in the league, especially after that last game? I don't.

[WindyCitySteel]

Thank you, while we all want the offense to perform better the defense is the problem. Sure, they got timely turnovers and forced FG’s but they gave up tons of yards and struggled to get off the field on 3rd down. Way too many blown coverages IMO.

28th ranked scoring offense, 6th ranked scoring defense (despite devastating injuries).

Sure, the D is the problem.

[feltdizz]

28th ranked scoring offense, 6th ranked scoring defense (despite devastating injuries).

Sure, the D is the problem.

Yeah, I definitely remember you never complaining about the defense last year.

[whatever]

The last 7 years(since our last playoff win)

18th averaged offense
9th averaged defense

[SteelerOfDeVille]

In the last five playoff games they've given up 118 points before the offense scored. This is also a defensive problem. They don't stop anyone, they don't force turnovers, and they don't get to the opposing QB.

Im sure this have been brought up already, but the turnovers in bad places by the offense.

Really not sure what yin?s expect the defense to do when you give up the ball in the red zone.

IM not laying the blame on either? both have places to improve. New OC is a good start

[WindyCitySteel]

Really not sure what yin?s expect the defense to do when you give up the ball in the red zone.

Make a stop? Turned it over at the 33, one play later the Bills scored.