The 1st off -season 2024 thread . We got a lot of work to do

[Joel Buchsbaum]

When your team is weak at coaching and QB, the offense tends to look well, Cleveland at low tide.

[Real Deal Steel]

Who knows at this point with Kenny. I see wide open WR's and he simply can't make the play. Then again, the OL offers him little protection most of the time, I just can't believe my eyes sometimes they are so bad. Then, they have a play or two that they will dominate. There's just no consistency. Kenny makes plays sometimes and others he's a dud. I don't see us wasting a 1st round pick on another QB this year. We need a center, we need a stud ILB. The secondary is not good. We need to quit spending money on retreads.

But above all, we need some freaking COACHING!

The key to everything else is who we are going to get as the OC . That is the key to everything else afterwards working out. We need to focus in on that first and foremost. Tomlin isn’t going any place in 2024.

[Northern_Blitz]

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I think Steelers will give him at least one more season with a new OC and see how it goes. The odds that he is actually a championship QB are low simply because there are barely any of those, even if Steelers spend a 1st round pick in 2024 on a QB odds are good that QB won't be one either.

This is what I think happens too.

Next offseason (not the one coming up) is a big one for Pickett because we'll have to decide on the 5th year option.

And there's really no argument for picking it up based on his play to date.

Hopefully that changes with a new system.

But my guess is that it's more likely that we'll be having similar discussions next season with some saying "how can we expect him to give us average results in his first year with a new OC?"

I hope that he proves me wrong.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

As much as I agree that the offensive system is awful, I also have the chicken or the egg question: Does the O look bad because of an over simplistic system, or is the system overly simple because the players (Pickett) can't handle anything more complex?

[Oviedo]

Unless a new OC is going to be making the reads and throwing the passes, we can't expect a major improvements as long as KP is the QB. As many of us said when he was drafted...KP is at best Cousins/Carr. I don't think he is even capable of being what they are. Can win with guys like that but won't win because of them.

[Northern_Blitz]

As much as I agree that the offensive system is awful, I also have the chicken or the egg question: Does the O look bad because of an over simplistic system, or is the system overly simple because the players (Pickett) can't handle anything more complex?

Until we see evidence to the contrary, I'm going with all of the above.

[whatever]

The key to everything else is who we are going to get as the OC . That is the key to everything else afterwards working out. We need to focus in on that first and foremost. Tomlin isn?t going any place in 2024.

I’m not thinking a successful OC is going to want to come here only to have Tomlin call the shots.
A great OC should know that he has a chance at getting a HC gig being successful and running things his way.
Working under Tomlin does not further your nfl career.

[NorthCoast]

I’m not thinking a successful OC is going to want to come here only to have Tomlin call the shots.
A great OC should know that he has a chance at getting a HC gig being successful and running things his way.
Working under Tomlin does not further your nfl career.

I don't want a great OC and it's unlikely to get one to just lateral to the Steelers.
I want the Steelers to hire an up and coming assistant from one of the better offenses in the league. Someone hungry and wanting to take the next step up.

[Buzz]

I don't want a great OC and it's unlikely to get one to just lateral to the Steelers.
I want the Steelers to hire an up and coming assistant from one of the better offenses in the league. Someone hungry and wanting to take the next step up.

who then becomes a great OC

with you on this one

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Unless a new OC is going to be making the reads and throwing the passes, we can't expect a major improvements as long as KP is the QB. As many of us said when he was drafted...KP is at best Cousins/Carr. I don't think he is even capable of being what they are. Can win with guys like that but won't win because of them.

Right. I said at best over a year ago his upside was Andy Dalton.

[T.Ferguson]

This is what I think happens too.

Next offseason (not the one coming up) is a big one for Pickett because we'll have to decide on the 5th year option.

And there's really no argument for picking it up based on his play to date.

Hopefully that changes with a new system.

But my guess is that it's more likely that we'll be having similar discussions next season with some saying "how can we expect him to give us average results in his first year with a new OC?"

I hope that he proves me wrong.

I just want to see him in a modern, forward thinking offense before moving on and the team investing in another 1st round QB, I'll even settle for a generic NFL offense with good coaching. I feel like everyone is just assuming the offense will be a departure and improvement next season but it hasn't really been one so far this year outside of the Bengals game. Lot of question marks with this team going forward.

[flippy]

Slow your roll.

let?s go win the SuperBowl first.

then we can fire Tomlin and bring in?.wait, you suggested Harbaugh. I don?t think any yinzer would be down with that. 😊