The 1st off -season 2024 thread . We got a lot of work to do

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Off season to do list. Start talking, Khan.

Our issues with this team are nemours. Thankfully every year there is an off-season and a draft.

In order of priority here is what we need.

1 ) A new head coach. Start making some calls. To Michigan University's Jim Habrbaugh or Detroit's talented OC Ben Johnson. Either would be a home run pick for new head coach. Besides, the CEO of Acrisure ( our stadium name ) Greg Williams is a billionaire, a big Steeler fan. Plus he has Michigan roots, does he not? May he be the new owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. A fresh start is needed for numerous reasons, among them are locker room control, to build a winning culture in the postseason, and to pick a new offensive coordinator. Tomlin you are out. You can chalk up the exit to family reasons, heath, or politics with the media. I don't care. The business of football is winning and you have failed to win a playoff game in seven years.


2 ) A new QB, I say in round one. Target the players McCarthy or Daniels. I prefer McCarthy. Daniels isn't built to last as he is a sting bean and has been injured before. If Nix is somehow there, color us lucky. This move will have far reaching implications on our future.


Trade Harris now. Kahn will be busy. I think he should get a third round pick. We need all the help we can get. Do it.


3. A new center. Interior lineman, Cooper Bebee in round two. He is a house with a grip of steel. You can't move him. A powerful player for our running game. I convert this guard into a center.

4. A new wide receiver and safety in round three. There are plenty of good ones. We get one of each.

Day three needs: Give me more ILB's, DL, and CB's for the defense. A new punter would be nice for special teams.

Check out various USFL and CFL players.

For now in Khan we must trust.

-JB

[WindyCitySteel]

McCarthy in round 1? That invalidates your entire plan.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

McCarthy in round 1? That invalidates your entire plan.

Well, if he is the best on the board when we pick in round one, heck yes. We must move on from Pickett.

You can ignore the QBR all your wish. You can ignore his stats which say he is completing 74.2% of his passes at 9.1 yards a pass. He is throwing them to just a bunch of guys, not 1st or second round NFL WR's either. You can ignore his play.

I see a tall Qb with a gun for an arm who is very accurate. And can move well. And he health and has never been hurt.

But you don't think so.. Okay , may I ask why? Provide details and reasoning please if you can.

[WindyCitySteel]

Well, if he is the best on the board when we pick in round one, heck yes. We must move on from Pickett.

You can ignore the QBR all your wish. You can ignore his stats which say he is completing 74.2% of his passes at 9.1 yards a pass. He is throwing them to just a bunch of guys, not 1st or second round NFL WR's either. You can ignore his play.

I see a tall Qb with a gun for an arm who is very accurate. And can move well. And he health and has never been hurt.

But you don't think so.. Okay , may I ask why? Provide details and reasoning please if you can.

Since UM got busted for cheating he hasn't thrown for 150 yards in four games. He's a mid to late round flier prospect.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Since UM got busted for cheating he hasn't thrown for 150 yards in four games. He's a mid to late round flier prospect.

Okay-- that concludes your analysis of McCarty, who is your esteemed judgment is a mid to late round pick in the draft. I say he will go in round one or two. Name your terms if you'd like to bet. If I agree, I will tell you why you're wrong. But the PT Barum in me says never talk your way out of a sucker bet.

[T.Ferguson]

Drafting a QB in round 1 makes little sense and I'd be shocked if Steelers did that.

- Steelers just drafted one in the 1st round.
- Offense needs to have an identity/coach before potentially drafting a QB that would fit it.
- Oline still needs some work.
- Tomlin might only be coaching one more season

I wouldn't be against drafting a QB at some point in the draft but round 1? Nah, not happening.

I would also be really surprised if Steelers were to hire someone like Harbaugh based on the past HC hirings, it really doesn't fit the mold at all and Harbaugh is almost 60! It's more likely we are looking at a young coach like late 30's or early 40's. I would like to see the team check out Kellen Moore who is an offensive guy.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Drafting a QB in round 1 makes little sense and I'd be shocked if Steelers did that.

- Steelers just drafted one in the 1st round.
- Offense needs to have an identity/coach before potentially drafting a QB that would fit it.
- Oline still needs some work.
- Tomlin might only be coaching one more season

I wouldn't be against drafting a QB at some point in the draft but round 1? Nah, not happening.

I would also be really surprised if Steelers were to hire someone like Harbaugh based on the past HC hirings, it really doesn't fit the mold at all and Harbaugh is almost 60! It's more likely we are looking at a young coach like late 30's or early 40's. I would like to see the team check out Kellen Moore who is an offensive guy.

And we drafted a bust at quarterback , the most important position in football by far. We need one badly, otherwise the offense will continue to suffer. Choose one in round one, I say.

The new OC or head coach will pick the offensive identity. We won't pick inside the top 10 in the draft but we sure as heck can pick the best head coaching prospect of the lot. We have the #1 pick here!

Yes, the OL needs some work.

[pfelix73]

Off season to do list. Start talking, Khan.

Our issues with this team are nemours. Thankfully every year there is an off-season and a draft.

In order of priority here is what we need.

1 ) A new head coach. Start making some calls. To Michigan University's Jim Habrbaugh or Detroit's talented OC Ben Johnson. Either would be a home run pick for new head coach. Besides, the CEO of Acrisure ( our stadium name ) Greg Williams is a billionaire, a big Steeler fan. Plus he has Michigan roots, does he not? May he be the new owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. A fresh start is needed for numerous reasons, among them are locker room control, to build a winning culture in the postseason, and to pick a new offensive coordinator. Tomlin you are out. You can chalk up the exit to family reasons, heath, or politics with the media. I don't care. The business of football is winning and you have failed to win a playoff game in seven years.


2 ) A new QB, I say in round one. Target the players McCarthy or Daniels. I prefer McCarthy. Daniels isn't built to last as he is a sting bean and has been injured before. If Nix is somehow there, color us lucky. This move will have far reaching implications on our future.


Trade Harris now. Kahn will be busy. I think he should get a third round pick. We need all the help we can get. Do it.


3. A new center. Interior lineman, Cooper Bebee in round two. He is a house with a grip of steel. You can't move him. A powerful player for our running game. I convert this guard into a center.

4. A new wide receiver and safety in round three. There are plenty of good ones. We get one of each.

Day three needs: Give me more ILB's, DL, and CB's for the defense. A new punter would be nice for special teams.

Check out various USFL and CFL players.

For now in Khan we must trust.

-JB

I would like to see a new head coach, but its not gonna happen in 2024. So, that isn't a reality. You should do a thread on who we can bring in as an offensive coordinator. Perhaps someone from either the 49ers, Chiefs, or Cincinnatis organization.. Look at their QB coaches and see who could a candidate from those offensive minded teams.. Even Cleveland organization. Watching the Browns/ Jax game and impressed with Flacco's play after him just being there for a few weeks. He's playing better than Trubisky even.

2. They wont draft a QB, and they shouldn't. I'd rather bring in a FA. And I'd seriously consider bringing back Josh Dobbs to compete with Pickett.

[T.Ferguson]

And we drafted a bust at quarterback , the most important position in football by far. We need one badly, otherwise the offense will continue to suffer. Choose one in round one, I say.

The new OC or head coach will pick the offensive identity. We won't pick inside the top 10 in the draft but we sure as heck can pick the best head coaching prospect of the lot. We have the #1 pick here!

Yes, the OL needs some work.

I think KP is still TBD, he could be a bust but we really need to keep in mind just how bad the offense and coaching is currently on the Steelers, I think some maybe either don't think it's THAT bad or that it's not that big of a factor but it is that bad and it is a big factor, especially with development of a QB transitioning from college to pros. This is why I didn't want the Steelers to even draft a QB under this regime in the first round, lack of development because these coaches have no clue what they are doing on the offensive side of the ball. But you could be right, he could be a bust but I think it's still TBD.

But regardless I think the team needs to figure out just what direction the franchise is headed in for the future and what the identity will be. For years now it feels like this team doesn't even have an identity. Once that is determined and if KP isn't the answer then go 1st round QB but I wouldn't before that, just doesn't make much sense to me.

Also I don't think this team is that bad talent wise. With some moves here and there and the right coach things could turn around surprisingly fast. AFC is actually looking pretty damn weak right now which makes these last couple of seasons all the more frustrating.

[WindyCitySteel]

Also I don't think this team is that bad talent wise. With some moves here and there and the right coach things could turn around surprisingly fast. AFC is actually looking pretty damn weak right now which makes these last couple of seasons all the more frustrating.

This. Dotson is better out of Pittsburgh, Seaumalo is worse in Pittsburgh. That's coaching and scheme.

We have WR talent, but they're lazy and undisciplined. D is loaded with talent.

[NorthCoast]

I think KP is still TBD, he could be a bust but we really need to keep in mind just how bad the offense and coaching is currently on the Steelers, I think some maybe either don't think it's THAT bad or that it's not that big of a factor but it is that bad and it is a big factor, especially with development of a QB transitioning from college to pros. This is why I didn't want the Steelers to even draft a QB under this regime in the first round, lack of development because these coaches have no clue what they are doing on the offensive side of the ball. But you could be right, he could be a bust but I think it's still TBD.

But regardless I think the team needs to figure out just what direction the franchise is headed in for the future and what the identity will be. For years now it feels like this team doesn't even have an identity. Once that is determined and if KP isn't the answer then go 1st round QB but I wouldn't before that, just doesn't make much sense to me.

Also I don't think this team is that bad talent wise. With some moves here and there and the right coach things could turn around surprisingly fast. AFC is actually looking pretty damn weak right now which makes these last couple of seasons all the more frustrating.

The Steelers started this season with a 60/40 pass run ratio. Found out this was the wrong way to go.
Even factoring in the OC do you really expect Pickett to rise from bottom of the league to even average? Add in the injury factor and it's looking like the Steelers need to shop again for a QB.

[pfelix73]

The Steelers started this season with a 60/40 pass run ratio. Found out this was the wrong way to go.
Even factoring in the OC do you really expect Pickett to rise from bottom of the league to even average? Add in the injury factor and it's looking like the Steelers need to shop again for a QB.

Too early to say. Kenny needs a REAL offense to work out of before we can say ya or no. Thats why I say bring in a FA to compete in 24. Just drafting another, will mean another crap shoot and potential waste of a pick.

[T.Ferguson]

The Steelers started this season with a 60/40 pass run ratio. Found out this was the wrong way to go.
Even factoring in the OC do you really expect Pickett to rise from bottom of the league to even average? Add in the injury factor and it's looking like the Steelers need to shop again for a QB.

Injuries are definitely a concern. Your opinion of KP is definitely lower than mine, like I said he could be a bust but then I see him make passes downfield like the ones to Muth and DJ in the Bengals game and he finishes with a 70% completion and over 300 yards, or the pass downfield to Pickens last week before being injured it's obvious he has talent, he can be very accurate. I saw things his rookie year that looked really promising, then his regression this year which to me just screams bad coaching and problems with his development.

I think Steelers will give him at least one more season with a new OC and see how it goes. The odds that he is actually a championship QB are low simply because there are barely any of those, even if Steelers spend a 1st round pick in 2024 on a QB odds are good that QB won't be one either.

First step is a new offensive system/identity then go from there though.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Originally Posted by WindyCitySteel View Post
Since UM got busted for cheating he hasn't thrown for 150 yards in four games. He's a mid to late round flier prospect.

Okay-- that concludes your analysis of McCarty, who is your esteemed judgment is a mid to late round pick in the draft. I say he will go in round one or two. Name your terms if you'd like to bet. If I agree, I will tell you why you're wrong. But the PT Barum in me says never talk your way out of a sucker bet.

Nothing from Windy? You clearly don't know what your talking about. McCarthy is not a day three pick.

[Jooser]

Who knows at this point with Kenny. I see wide open WR's and he simply can't make the play. Then again, the OL offers him little protection most of the time, I just can't believe my eyes sometimes they are so bad. Then, they have a play or two that they will dominate. There's just no consistency. Kenny makes plays sometimes and others he's a dud. I don't see us wasting a 1st round pick on another QB this year. We need a center, we need a stud ILB. The secondary is not good. We need to quit spending money on retreads.

But above all, we need some freaking COACHING!