A Comparison of Steeler QBs

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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 26626

    #16
    70 QBs have played in a game this season.
    Do they really want to go to 18 games?!?

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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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      • May 2008
      • 10267

      #17
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      70 QBs have played in a game this season.
      Do they really want to go to 18 games?!?
      I say go back to 16, eliminate Thursday games (except for two on Thanksgiving) and 4 pre-season. Of course the league will never do that because that means less money for the owners AND the players. BTW I always laugh when people singularly blame the greedy owners. Nothing happens without union consent, and the players share equally in the spoils of those extra money grabs.
      http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27482

        #18
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        70 QBs have played in a game this season.
        Do they really want to go to 18 games?!?
        if the ratings support more revenue, YES.. lol

        as long as the games are played they don't care.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • papillon
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          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #19
          Originally posted by NorthCoast
          I was holding off on posting this until the end of the season but it looks unlikely that it will change between now and then (at least for Pickett).

          If you are not familiar, elo is the defunct fivethirtyeight QB rating method that is similar to QBR but not on 0-100 scale. They also devised a way to adjust ratings to make comparisons over eras more valid (the rating is adjusted vs NFL avgs for the week played).

          Here's a comparison of a few Steeler QBs. I'm afraid to say that KP is looking kinda Bubby-like in the early part of his career.

          (Didn't want the plot to look like spaghetti but I also took a look at Cliff Stoudt's ratings. He was actually better than Bubby and Pickett. I've mentioned KP being Ryan Tannehill like early in his career and the curves are virtually identical. If there is another QB comparison you are interested in let me know and I'll check the data).

          [url=https://flic.kr/p/2pjMo8L][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2pjMo8L]capture1[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191750946@N04/]R W[/url], on Flickr
          Can you check Mahommes vs Pickett just to see the vast difference?

          Pappy
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          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27482

            #20
            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            I say go back to 16, eliminate Thursday games (except for two on Thanksgiving) and 4 pre-season. Of course the league will never do that because that means less money for the owners AND the players. BTW I always laugh when people singularly blame the greedy owners. Nothing happens without union consent, and the players share equally in the spoils of those extra money grabs.
            I like Thursday games. I think they should wait until bye weeks and have teams come back on Thursday and then get another 10 days to rest up.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Chucktownsteeler
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              • May 2008
              • 6849

              #21
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I like Thursday games. I think they should wait until bye weeks and have teams come back on Thursday and then get another 10 days to rest up.
              That is what I always thought could work out, but you'd still have the following week.
              Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

              I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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              • NorthCoast
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                • Sep 2008
                • 26626

                #22
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                if the ratings support more revenue, YES.. lol

                as long as the games are played they don't care.
                Can't get enough of CJ Beathard vs J Browning....

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Can't get enough of CJ Beathard vs J Browning....
                  NorthCoast, your boy Trubisky says he 's going to get after it!! Oh boy.

                  With Kenny Pickett out for Week 14 after undergoing ankle surgery, Mitch Trubisky will be behind center when the Steelers play the Patriots on Thursday night.

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                  • Chucktownsteeler
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                    • May 2008
                    • 6849

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    NorthCoast, your boy Trubisky says he 's going to get after it!! Oh boy.

                    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-be-aggressive
                    The over and under for interceptions is 3.
                    Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                    I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                    • Northern_Blitz
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 24353

                      #25
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      the problem is the amount of games he has left to injury. Pretty sure we have lost all but one game where he left with an injury.

                      That is A LOT of games missed in 25 starts and he has yet to really have a game with serious stats and I think all but one the score was close.

                      He?a losing chances to change minds and a large reason why is because he isn?t seeing the field.
                      I think the problem is more than he's very inconsistent. Usually has max one good quarter per game.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24353

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        70 QBs have played in a game this season.
                        Do they really want to go to 18 games?!?
                        Looks at revenue projections...

                        Yes. The answer is yes!

                        Personally, I think they could / should stay at 17 games (or go back to 16 games) and just add more bye weeks.

                        Then they still get more weekends they can sell adds. And players don't get beat up as much.

                        Probably there is something wrong with competitive balance with this solution.

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                        • LPMAN
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 2001

                          #27
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          He?a not seeing them. Almost
                          feels like we are just trying to throw to the right side of the end zone. Weird how he rarely looks left when its usually where the open WR is located.
                          I was just going to say it looks like Kenny only looks right. Doesn't he like to spin outside pocket to the right as well?

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24353

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            I like Thursday games. I think they should wait until bye weeks and have teams come back on Thursday and then get another 10 days to rest up.
                            The problem I think is that not all weeks have bye weeks.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24353

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LPMAN
                              I was just going to say it looks like Kenny only looks right. Doesn't he like to spin outside pocket to the right as well?
                              I feel like usually when he does the turn his back to the play spin, he is going left.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27482

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LPMAN
                                I was just going to say it looks like Kenny only looks right. Doesn't he like to spin outside pocket to the right as well?
                                hate that spin, it only worked once or twice but he has run into traffic another 4 or 5 times. Needs to learn how to slide his feet in the pocket or just throw it in the dirt by a WR or TE in the flat and live to see another play.
                                Steelers 27
                                Rats 16

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