Bench Kenny

[flippy]

At this point, I am not sure any other move makes as much sense.

He might not be a top 50 NFL QB at this point. Every other starting QB is better and probably half the backups are too.

Kenny is playing worse than Duck when Duck got benched. Kenny is barely throwing the ball 5 yards past the LoS with an occasional 10 yard out.

Of 315 QBs since 1970 with 500 passes, only 1 has throw less than 2% TD passes and it our own KP.

Dude is completely lost out there. He cannot read a D. He cannot make a throw.

Make whatever excuse you have to make and say his ribs are worse than we thought and he has to go on IR.

IMHO, Kenny is mentally broken so give him a break. Let him reassess his life?s work.

This team is a wreck with him. We would be immediately better with anyone handing the ball off 95% of the time.

There?s already no threat of a passing game for teams to defense against us. How bad would it hurt to have Mitch or Mason make a throw 5% of the time?

Kenny has an arm like Duck. At least Mitch or Mason could throw the ball down field from time to time.

[Eich]

I'm not sure the offense improves by benching him but it can't get any worse. And then what? Mitch or Rudolph comes in and we scratch and claw our way to a barely winning season? Ugh. I can't argue for benching Kenny or keeping him in there. Neither option really matters in my mind with our entire offensive philosophy.

I said last season that I thought we were wasting 2 years of Kenny's rookie deal by having Matt Canada as the coordinator. I think it's worse than that. I think we made Kenny regress. He is not THIS bad. We somehow made him this bad.

The passing offense needs a complete overhaul. It just doesn't work. It looks especially bad against a good defense.

[Prowler]

At this point in time, I'm all for benching Pickett. Unfortunately, I thought I heard Tomlin say after the game that Pickett would remain the starter for the rest of the season. Yikes not good.

[Tennessee Steeler]

I agree. Give the keys to someone else and start scouting quarterbacks. I know they probably will give him another year but we are delaying the inevitable. As much as I was hoping he would be the guy the reality is he just doesn’t have it. Career backup at best.

[papillon]

I don't understand why you would make the statement that Kenny is the starter for the rest of the year. I guess its to keep his confidence level as high as possible but once the opposing defense has a say in the matter that confidence will go out the window. The running game has elevated its level of play by making some changes, its time to do the same for the passing game and see what happens. If you're going to win 8 or 9 games you might as well see if you have a player that might get you to 10 or 11, right now, KP isn't that guy.

Pappy

[WindyCitySteel]

I'm all for it, if the other QBs struggle to score as well then we can confirm the culprit for this anemic offense.

I mean, I already know who it is...

[T.Ferguson]

Two weeks later "Man, Trubisky sucks!"

Four weeks later "Man, Rudolph sucks!"

Ben's last year and Canada's first year as OC "Man, Ben doesn't have it anymore...except for when he's running the no-huddle, I don't understand this!"

[Joel Buchsbaum]

At this point, I am not sure any other move makes as much sense.

He might not be a top 50 NFL QB at this point. Every other starting QB is better and probably half the backups are too.

Kenny is playing worse than Duck when Duck got benched. Kenny is barely throwing the ball 5 yards past the LoS with an occasional 10 yard out.

Of 315 QBs since 1970 with 500 passes, only 1 has throw less than 2% TD passes and it our own KP.

Dude is completely lost out there. He cannot read a D. He cannot make a throw.

Make whatever excuse you have to make and say his ribs are worse than we thought and he has to go on IR.

IMHO, Kenny is mentally broken so give him a break. Let him reassess his life?s work.

This team is a wreck with him. We would be immediately better with anyone handing the ball off 95% of the time.

There?s already no threat of a passing game for teams to defense against us. How bad would it hurt to have Mitch or Mason make a throw 5% of the time?

Kenny has an arm like Duck. At least Mitch or Mason could throw the ball down field from time to time.

+1. As I been saying. We need a new QB. We need a new starting RB, P, a good safety, a new head coach too. You have head of players only meetings? How about a first a Steeler fans only meeting debating these issues face to face. Art Rooney II will be watching. It will make for good TV.

[WindyCitySteel]

Two weeks later "Man, Trubisky sucks!"

Four weeks later "Man, Rudolph sucks!"

Ben's last year and Canada's first year as OC "Man, Ben doesn't have it anymore...except for when he's running the no-huddle, I don't understand this!"

Smash cut to 2022:

"Canada finally has his QB in Trubisky - just you watch!"

"Mitch sucks! Canada FINALLY has his QB in Kenny - just you watch!"

[Eich]

I'm all for it, if the other QBs struggle to score as well then we can confirm the culprit for this anemic offense.

I mean, I already know who it is...

I'd be pretty surprised if the other QBs didn't struggle in this offense. We've seen what they can do.

Mitch would come in, have a few nice throws and then turn the ball over a few times, throwing into double or triple coverage.

Mason would come in, throw a few nice rainbows but get sacked at a higher rate than the others. Hopefully not get beaten with his own helmet after he's had enough sacks.

I actually think that in THIS offense, our 3rd string guy might have the most success. Conservative pocket passing. Handoff the ball . Throw a few rainbows to back up the defense. Win a few 13-10 games.

[flippy]

I'm not sure the offense improves by benching him but it can't get any worse. And then what? Mitch or Rudolph comes in and we scratch and claw our way to a barely winning season? Ugh. I can't argue for benching Kenny or keeping him in there. Neither option really matters in my mind with our entire offensive philosophy.

I said last season that I thought we were wasting 2 years of Kenny's rookie deal by having Matt Canada as the coordinator. I think it's worse than that. I think we made Kenny regress. He is not THIS bad. We somehow made him this bad.

The passing offense needs a complete overhaul. It just doesn't work. It looks especially bad against a good defense.

good point. Mason and Mitch are not the answer either. We have enough experience with both to know what they are.

that said, it is a failing of Tomlin / khan not to have a backup QB on the roster that is in development that we know has some potential. Look at all these other teams bring in young unknown QBs. Why can?t we have some guy that could come in and run the wildcat or have some upside that could surprise us?

instead we have Mitch who might have more confidence in his arm than anyone I?ve ever seen who is gonna throw at every tight window he can find?

and we have Mason who processes slow like Kenny. Mason has the arm but his mental processing is what holds him back imho.

Either way, it doesn?t matter. Odds are we?ll see the results we will see.

[Captain Lemming]

They are not winning a SB with ANY current QB. I don?t see how it matters much. I really suspect our record would be worse if one of the other guys started.

They?d have more touchdowns AND picks, lost more, and people would be outraged Kenny ain?t in.

Let Kenny finish the season and prove DEFINITIVELY who he is before moving on with a clean slate with some not currently on the roster, if he can?t get it together.

[WindyCitySteel]

good point. Mason and Mitch are not the answer either. We have enough experience with both to know what they are.

that said, it is a failing of Tomlin / khan not to have a backup QB on the roster that is in development that we know has some potential. Look at all these other teams bring in young unknown QBs. Why can?t we have some guy that could come in and run the wildcat or have some upside that could surprise us?

instead we have Mitch who might have more confidence in his arm than anyone I?ve ever seen who is gonna throw at every tight window he can find?

and we have Mason who processes slow like Kenny. Mason has the arm but his mental processing is what holds him back imho.

Either way, it doesn?t matter. Odds are we?ll see the results we will see.

Have you looked around the league? Many teams would kill for our QB depth. They're perfectly adequate backups who look like garbage in this high school offense.

[flippy]

They are not winning a SB with ANY current QB. I don’t see how it matters much.

Let Kenny finish the season and prove DEFINITIVELY before moving on with a clean slate if he can’t get it together.

Cause it might give Kenny a chance to take a breath and reset.

Im not 100% sold he can’t work. I’ve been this frustrated with him before at Pitt.

Im just saying he’s not good right now and he might not give us the best chance to win next week.

[Eich]

Have you looked around the league? Many teams would kill for our QB depth. They're perfectly adequate backups who look like garbage in this high school offense.

We do have decent QB depth. But to Flippy's point, should we have 2 backups that we pretty much know their ceiling already? It would be nice to have a project QB at 3rd string. Someone hungry, wanting to prove himself. Someone who, if he came in, opposing defenses don't already know his tendencies. I think we know that both Mitch and Mason are never going to be THE answer. We put all our eggs into the first round KP8 basket.

That said, I agree with the high school offense and I'm not sure it matters all that much, who the QB is on THIS offense.