Warner: KP Struggling Reading Defenses

[NorthCoast]

Pickett is having trouble reading defenses according to Kurt Warner:

"[Playing quarterback[ is knowing where you need to start based on what the defense is doing to you," Warner said. "And he struggled a little bit with that here early in the season, and that's going to get you in trouble. The game's fast and you're playing against good defenses. Trying to play catch-up when you don't see things and identify things quickly leads to struggles no matter who you are."

So blame Canada for the scheme but the QB has problems as well.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38688628/pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback-kenny-pickett-progress-season-two-update

[Oviedo]

Pickett is having trouble reading defenses according to Kurt Warner:




So blame Canada for the scheme but the QB has problems as well.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...son-two-update

As I posted recently, Canada is lacking but KP is not making plays. He is inaccurate and late delivering the ball. That has nothing to do with the OC.

Warner did a good discussion on this.

[WindyCitySteel]

He's struggling with zone. This is not good. I say give him the rest of the year and if the light doesn't go on, even as bad as Canada is, it's time to move on.

Worst thing they could do is panic and play Mitch to try to salvage 9 wins.

[Eich]

The question is why he's struggling reading defenses. If it's because he's seeing ghosts and has the yips, that could be an easier fix than if he just can't do it.

Why does he seem to come alive at the ends of games?

I'd like to see Warner become a QB coach and coordinator.

[Captain Lemming]

The question is why he's struggling reading defenses. If it's because he's seeing ghosts and has the yips, that could be an easier fix than if he just can't do it.

Why does he seem to come alive at the ends of games?

I'd like to see Warner become a QB coach and coordinator.

Now THAT would be interesting Interesting.

[brothervad]

I am sure that this correlation has been proven but it would be interesting to see...of the 1st round QB's taken what the average success rate would be based on the O-line play. I know people point out that it's a new world in the NFL today and QB's are expected to come in and play immediately with results.

I still think that it would be interesting to see in those early stages what the correlation of long term success vs the O line effectiveness (I guess you could look at pass protection, but it may be a combination of the two that is more important as I feel that being multi-faceted on offense makes it harder to gameplan defensively).

I am not making excuses for KP. But I do recall historically, that QB's that got the pi$$ beaten out of them early on had a hell of time becoming relevant in the NFL. But that is a bias and not factually based (thinking David Carr who got hammered his rookie season in Houston - 76 sacks).

I know it's easy to label as one of the biggest bust #1 picks at QB and I am not arguing...I am just curious what the data analysis would indicate.

Brothervad

[Djfan]

I can't help but wonder if he just needs solid coaching in this area.

["BuzzNuter"]

I'm wondering how Warner recognises this? Is KP holding the ball too long? Is he missing wide open receivers? I read the article and he makes these statements as fact. He should at least be a scout if he can identify a QBs problems by watching.

I ask this because is it possible that KP has a primary target specified to him by the OC. Has he been overcoached to progress through certain receivers? Is he scared to make a mistake? I ask this because if he can't read a defense he's not going to get any better.

I would like to hear another evaluation of him. I wish Ben would give an honest evaluation but he is too much of a homer to do that.

[feltdizz]

I'm wondering how Warner recognises this? Is KP holding the ball too long? Is he missing wide open receivers? I read the article and he makes these statements as fact. He should at least be a scout if he can identify a QBs problems by watching.

I ask this because is it possible that KP has a primary target specified to him by the OC. Has he been overcoached to progress through certain receivers? Is he scared to make a mistake? I ask this because if he can't read a defense he's not going to get any better.

I would like to hear another evaluation of him. I wish Ben would give an honest evaluation but he is too much of a homer to do that.

I think the key thing Warner said is Kenny has faced the top 3 pass defenses in his first 5 games this season.

[NorthCoast]

I'm wondering how Warner recognises this? Is KP holding the ball too long? Is he missing wide open receivers? I read the article and he makes these statements as fact. He should at least be a scout if he can identify a QBs problems by watching.

I ask this because is it possible that KP has a primary target specified to him by the OC. Has he been overcoached to progress through certain receivers? Is he scared to make a mistake? I ask this because if he can't read a defense he's not going to get any better.

I would like to hear another evaluation of him. I wish Ben would give an honest evaluation but he is too much of a homer to do that.

Coaches have said several times that Pickett needs to take the plays that are there instead of looking for the big one. According to NGS his time to throw is a tick under 3 secs.
I expect to see a ton of dumps to DJ against the Rams. Pickett was very good at the 5 yd out to him last season. It's a boring offense but at lease they are possessing the ball and not giving it back on 3 and outs.

btw, here's another stat to chew; have you wondered why the Steelers don't throw more slants to WRs? Turns out that KP is 1 for 9 on slants. With that lowly success rate you can pretty much scratch that from the playbook.

[WindyCitySteel]

Coaches have said several times that Pickett needs to take the plays that are there instead of looking for the big one. According to NGS his time to throw is a tick under 3 secs.
I expect to see a ton of dumps to DJ against the Rams. Pickett was very good at the 5 yd out to him last season. It's a boring offense but at lease they are possessing the ball and not giving it back on 3 and outs.

btw, here's another stat to chew; have you wondered why the Steelers don't throw more slants to WRs? Turns out that KP is 1 for 9 on slants. With that lowly success rate you can pretty much scratch that from the playbook.

Najee should get 5-8 targets a game on checkdowns.

[Shawn]

Pickett is having trouble reading defenses according to Kurt Warner:




So blame Canada for the scheme but the QB has problems as well.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...son-two-update

Again what I?m saying. He isnt processing fast enough. That is why he is playing scared. Hes a slow burn who may never catch on. But it also wouldnt shock me if by season 4-5 hes a strong QB. Maybe never franchise but a top 10 QB if he can stay in a system that works to his strengths long enough.

[NorthCoast]

Again what I?m saying. He isnt processing fast enough. That is why he is playing scared. Hes a slow burn who may never catch on. But it also wouldnt shock me if by season 4-5 hes a strong QB. Maybe never franchise but a top 10 QB if he can stay in a system that works to his strengths long enough.

So the Steelers burn his entire rookie contract for him to learn the game?

Type	Completions	Attempts	Comp %	Yards	Avg	% of plays
OUT	25	32	78.13%	180	5.63	21.62%
HITCH	22	30	73.33%	250	8.33	20.27%
FLAT	18	25	72.00%	126	5.04	16.89%
GO	5	18	27.78%	101	5.61	12.16%
SCREEN	10	12	83.33%	42	3.5	8.11%
CROSS	6	10	60.00%	47	4.7	6.76%
SLANT	1	9	11.11%	9	1	6.08%
IN	3	5	60.00%	41	8.2	3.38%
CORNER	2	3	66.67%	45	15	2.03%
ANGLE	3	3	100.00%	45	15	2.03%
WHEEL	0	1	0.00%	0	0	0.68%

[The Man of Steel]

He's struggling with zone. This is not good. II say give him the rest of the year and if the light doesn't go on, even as bad as Canada is, it's time to move on.

Worst thing they could do is panic and play Mitch to try to salvage 9 wins.

I like how Steelers fans are ready to move on from Kenny already and forgetting that there?s only been 2 legit QB?s in the franchise?s entire history. The next TB or BR probably won?t be suiting up in the black n gold for another 20-25 years again.

[feltdizz]

I like how Steelers fans are ready to move on from Kenny already and forgetting that there?s only been 2 legit QB?s in the franchise?s entire history. The next TB or BR probably won?t be suiting up in the black n gold for another 20-25 years again.

its been 17 games. Just how much time our we supposed to give Kenny?

yes, this is sarcasm.