I've Lost All Faith in the Steelers Except For:

[Captain Lemming]

I did not forget. And don?t get me wrong the name Kenny Montana gives me a good chuckle. But I?m trying to grow along spiritual lines and be a better human. So rubbing salt in wounds while very satisfying is not conducive to long term harmony and peace. Therefore, I will humble myself and take the high road that all great minds must take and refrain from calling Kenny?Kenny Montana?well again.Thank you and I appreciate your service to this community.

You do know I was teasing myself. I started the Montana comp. When you called him Kenny Montana before I found it hilarious even though I?m a part of the butt of that joke.

BTW, much respect on the spiritual path my brother.

[Shawn]

Well, that, and you thought Johnny Manziel was the next great QB when he came out.

Glass houses...

Lol, maybe go back and read what I wrote about Johnny. It was pretty dead on specifically about his success hinging on his substance use issues. Anyways I was being playful with my post if you didnt catch that.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Rooney, Colbert and Tomlin hired Canada.

While singling out Tomlin may fit the narative you want to create, the Steelers organization has made it clear many times that decisions are made by a combination of ownership, GM and Head Coach

I think that while each would have had a say in hiring Canada, we can assume that because of Tomlin's prior relationship that it was his push. Kind of like he made the call and then asked for the go ahead.

The bigger question is whose call is it to keep him employed when most people realize he should no longer be. I wonder if it is Rooney because he doesn't want to pay someone to sit home, or Tomlin out of loyalty, or Tomlin because he is mandating this simple offense? We can all speculate but none of us know the answer, but whoever it is, it is not working.

[feltdizz]

I think that while each would have had a say in hiring Canada, we can assume that because of Tomlin's prior relationship that it was his push. Kind of like he made the call and then asked for the go ahead.

The bigger question is whose call is it to keep him employed when most people realize he should no longer be. I wonder if it is Rooney because he doesn't want to pay someone to sit home, or Tomlin out of loyalty, or Tomlin because he is mandating this simple offense? We can all speculate but none of us know the answer, but whoever it is, it is not working.

Canada was the OC at Pitt and shared facilities with the Steelers on the Southside.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Canada was the OC at Pitt and shared facilities with the Steelers on the Southside.

He was OC for one year in 2016. I would think that the relationship with Tomlin, who was also there in 2016 and continued a relationship after he moved on, would be the overriding force. I think it's much more likely that Tomlin would have brought him forward than Colbert or Rooney. Could be wrong but just speculation.

[Mick'sTeam]

What we're seeing from Tomlin is nothing new. Wasted challenges. Unprepared teams. No mid-game or mid-season adjustments. I've never been a Tomlin hater, but I haven't been a fan. He's nothing but a gasbag, saying words that mean absolutely nothing.

Yes, Canada needs to go and should have been gone long ago. But I feel the same about Tomlin. If any of us had underachieved over the course of a decade as much as he has, with zero evidence of growth or change, we would've lost our jobs well before now.

[feltdizz]

He was OC for one year in 2016. I would think that the relationship with Tomlin, who was also there in 2016 and continued a relationship after he moved on, would be the overriding force. I think it's much more likely that Tomlin would have brought him forward than Colbert or Rooney. Could be wrong but just speculation.

While I'm sure Tomlin played a part.. that one year the Pitt offense average 41 points a game and beat Penn State at a sold out Heinz Field and beat Clemson who went on to win the National Championship.

That one year got him the job at LSU. I think his success at Pitt played a larger role. Steeler brass got to see him up close and personal. We also drafted Connor in 2016. We were a fan of that offense.

[feltdizz]

What we're seeing from Tomlin is nothing new. Wasted challenges. Unprepared teams. No mid-game or mid-season adjustments. I've never been a Tomlin hater, but I haven't been a fan. He's nothing but a gasbag, saying words that mean absolutely nothing.

Yes, Canada needs to go and should have been gone long ago. But I feel the same about Tomlin. If any of us had underachieved over the course of a decade as much as he has, with zero evidence of growth or change, we would've lost our jobs well before now.

I have to disagree about the underachieving over the course of a decade.

When you make a timeline of it, its easy to see why Tomlin still has a job.
2007 playoffs
2008 SB win
2009 (Ben's first SA accusation)
2010 SB appearance
2010 (Ben's second SA accusation)
2011-15 Three playoff appearances
2016 AFCCG


I think the 2017 to 2023 is where the real frustration comes in and the last 3 years with Canada have been ridiculous. I guess I have an issue with people saying the last 10 years because based on that timeline fans are implying Tomlin should've made 3.. or 4 SB's. Now, maybe he should've but that would put him in some serious company. I do believe he should be released after the 2024 contract is up based on the last 7 years but I'm not surprised one bit he lasted so long given our history and his first 10 years of success.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

No comparison ....after our Monday Lost beating to Indy (2005) I still thought the pieces were in place.

After 4 games its only been confirmed what we've already known. And the frustration is justified b/c it seems the Steelers don't know it

So, both that game and the playoff game that year was in Indy.

I was at the MNF game (lower level, like row J - damn good seats). It was brutal.

My brother was at the playoff game. (He floats from team to team and was a Colts fan at the time - such is life in Kentucky without an NFL team).

I need him to attend more Steelers games... he's been to 3 and they've never lost

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Canada was the OC at Pitt and shared facilities with the Steelers on the Southside.

meaning Rooney also likely had a prior relationship with him, not just Tomlin

[feltdizz]

meaning Rooney also likely had a prior relationship with him, not just Tomlin

most people totally forgot or ignored that Canada was the Pitt OC in 2016. I think its because of the Tomlin/Dino scholarship conspiracy.

The fact that we share practice facilities with Pitt shouldve helped folks connect the dots.

[feltdizz]

So, both that game and the playoff game that year was in Indy.

I was at the MNF game (lower level, like row J - damn good seats). It was brutal.

My brother was at the playoff game. (He floats from team to team and was a Colts fan at the time - such is life in Kentucky without an NFL team).

I need him to attend more Steelers games... he's been to 3 and they've never lost

Dude. a lot of people, myself included, thought the Colts were going to embarrass us due to the MNF game.

[Mick'sTeam]

I have to disagree about the underachieving over the course of a decade.

When you make a timeline of it, its easy to see why Tomlin still has a job.
2007 playoffs
2008 SB win
2009 (Ben's first SA accusation)
2010 SB appearance
2010 (Ben's second SA accusation)
2011-15 Three playoff appearances
2016 AFCCG


I think the 2017 to 2023 is where the real frustration comes in and the last 3 years with Canada have been ridiculous. I guess I have an issue with people saying the last 10 years because based on that timeline fans are implying Tomlin should've made 3.. or 4 SB's. Now, maybe he should've but that would put him in some serious company. I do believe he should be released after the 2024 contract is up based on the last 7 years but I'm not surprised one bit he lasted so long given our history and his first 10 years of success.

Okay, then I'll rephrase my last statement. If any of us had underachieved over the course of 7 years as much as he has, with zero evidence of growth or change, we would've lost our jobs well before now. With the talent he's had during his tenure, making it to a 3rd or 4th Super Bowl was certainly possible. But I understand that's not an easy thing to achieve. However, zero playoff wins in 6 years is a joke.

[SidSmythe]

Okay, then I'll rephrase my last statement. If any of us had underachieved over the course of 7 years as much as he has, with zero evidence of growth or change, we would've lost our jobs well before now. With the talent he's had during his tenure, making it to a 3rd or 4th Super Bowl was certainly possible. But I understand that's not an easy thing to achieve. However, zero playoff wins in 6 years is a joke.

Been at my job for 1 1/2 yrs. Struggled the first 9 months....but this yr I've hit my numbers and bonuses. However there are some areas lacking .... the Big Boss wants to meet with me next week. He's going to tell me I'm not here to go 9-8..... He wants some Big Game victories.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Been at my job for 1 1/2 yrs. Struggled the first 9 months....but this yr I've hit my numbers and bonuses. However there are some areas lacking .... the Big Boss wants to meet with me next week. He's going to tell me I'm not here to go 9-8..... He wants some Big Game victories.

The Standard is the Standard.