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  • Steel Maniac
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    • Apr 2017
    • 19472

    #16
    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
    Woukd be funny if the cardinals want Levi’s.

    taje Paris in first cause kyler liked him. Turn take a qb ready to replace him. Lol
    Hahahahahahaha. They need a second QB thou....

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    • hawaiiansteel
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      • May 2008
      • 35648

      #17
      Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
      i don't think anyone is going to give up two 2nds for a 2nd... depending on how far back they move, the haul could be a 4th... Detroit's might net you a 3rd, but it's a LONG drop to their first 2nd (48 overall pick)
      yeah, I wouldn't want us to drop that far down.

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #18
        I’m all for draft capital to a certain extent.

        But whats the highest pick we can get out of this?
        I don’t think they want to move that far back

        so is getting a 4th or 5th rounder in a trade enough to possibly miss out on the guy they want/need ?

        im thinking more and more they keep the pick.
        Have 2 quality starters at 2 premium positions with first 2 picks.
        if they can grab 2 more starters or even just contributors at 49 and 80
        it will go down as a fantastic draft

        Who cares about another pick in the 4th/5th round.
        how often do they even make the team ??

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        • Steel Maniac
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          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #19
          Your right..we can't move that far back. That's why I'm looking at the Raiders.

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          • whatever
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            • Sep 2019
            • 5795

            #20
            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            I’m all for draft capital to a certain extent.

            But whats the highest pick we can get out of this?
            I don’t think they want to move that far back

            so is getting a 4th or 5th rounder in a trade enough to possibly miss out on the guy they want/need ?

            im thinking more and more they keep the pick.
            Have 2 quality starters at 2 premium positions with first 2 picks.
            if they can grab 2 more starters or even just contributors at 49 and 80
            it will go down as a fantastic draft

            Who cares about another pick in the 4th/5th round.
            how often do they even make the team ??
            Exactly.
            This draft is for 4 players.
            I don’t give two craps about our 7ths. Those rarely make the team and are no different than the un-drafted.
            Hell, I’d trade my 7ths to move up in the 3rd and 4th.
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • hackjam
              Starter
              • Sep 2021
              • 995

              #21
              John Michael Schmitz.

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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                #22
                Originally posted by flippy
                If there’s a guy that you have rated at elite, you take him and don’t bother dropping back.

                Draft capital is great but the reality is most picks are misses and the odds go down the longer you get into the draft.

                Would love to have more picks. But getting a guy is so much more valuable.
                I agree 100 percent. The value gap between Peezy and the field is huge by many. While gurus don't matter, IF our board is similar, it will be hard to skip Peezy.

                Imagine if trade was not made. Gonzo STILL was NE target. Jets take Jones. If we were going to take Peezy at 17, there is unlikely anybody gives us reasonable value to give up a shot at our 17 target at 32.

                Maybe they trade with the Raiders and hope he falls but I would suggest a day of seeing Peezy as the best value by far would cause SOMEBODY to take him.

                We WILL take calls hoping for STUPID value, but if we actually trade for say a 3rd, it says the team never liked Peezy near as much as people thought.

                They might be right.

                If we don’t take Peezy it would not surprise if Harbaugh trades down to get a highly motivated player with Ben's fire to make his hometown team regret the snub.
                Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-28-2023, 11:01 AM.
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                • Joel Buchsbaum
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                  • Jan 2021
                  • 7744

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ghost
                  Either the Rams or Raiders may be looking for a QB. The Rams are 36 and the Raiders are 38. Not too far back to drop if the draft capital is good.
                  I'll take exchange 2nd round picks and take their 3rd. Might as well be greedy and take their 6th round pick as well.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                    I'll take exchange 2nd round picks and take their 3rd. Might as well be greedy and take their 6th round pick as well.
                    Didn't you like Hendon Hooker?

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
                      • 27532

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      I agree 100 percent. The value gap between Peezy and the field is huge by many. While gurus don't matter, IF our board is similar, it will be hard to skip Peezy.

                      Imagine if trade was not made. Gonzo STILL was NE target. Jets take Jones. If we were going to take Peezy at 17, there is unlikely anybody gives us reasonable value to give up a shot at our 17 target at 32.

                      Maybe they trade with the Raiders and hope he falls but I would suggest a day of seeing Peezy as the best value by far would cause SOMEBODY to take him.

                      We WILL take calls hoping for STUPID value, but if we actually trade for say a 3rd, it says the team never liked Peezy near as much as people thought.

                      They might be right.

                      If we don’t take Peezy it would not surprise if Harbaugh trades down to get a highly motivated player with Ben's fire to make his hometown team regret the snub.
                      and you know some of this “LOVE” for JPJ is simply because of his dad and probably not the way we truly feel about him..

                      unless we take him of course but even still, not taking him at 17 already tells us he wasn’t our most coveted player.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • NJ-STEELER
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                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #26
                        Fowler tweeted 4 teams have called the Steelers with legit interest in 32

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                        • whatever
                          Legend
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 5795

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          Fowler tweeted 4 teams have called the Steelers with legit interest in 32

                          Awesome. It’s early in the day too.
                          How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            Fowler tweeted 4 teams have called the Steelers with legit interest in 32
                            Nice.... Okay Khan, show us your skills.

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                            • Captain Lemming
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                              • Jun 2008
                              • 16041

                              #29
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              and you know some of this “LOVE” for JPJ is simply because of his dad and probably not the way we truly feel about him..

                              unless we take him of course but even still, not taking him at 17 already tells us he wasn’t our most coveted player.
                              What do you mean?
                              Just because they MOVED UP for Jones does not mean Peezy wasn’t who’d they take if Jones was gone.

                              ”If” we had Peezys values in the teens with nobody who remains close to that you will not likely get commensurate value in a trade.

                              If you have him in a mix of 30 something values with other DBs a trade is a no brained.

                              My point is that IF he would have been pick 17 as many expected had we stood pat, you won’t make a trade unless the other team offers stupid compensation.

                              I would suggest that if someone wanted a player that bad he goes in a the first.

                              I don’t think we disagree. My point is if they trade the pick, it tells us they never liked Peezy to begin with.

                              I just think that the move up does not tell us that just yet.

                              ”If” they happen to think like me, they would see it as getting TWO GUYS they saw as top 20 talents.
                              Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-28-2023, 12:15 PM.
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                              • whatever
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 5795

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                What do you mean?
                                Just because they MOVED UP for Jones does not mean Peezy wasn’t who’d they take if Jones was gone.

                                ”If” we had Peezys values in the teens with nobody who remains close to that you will not likely get commensurate value in a trade.

                                If you have him in a mix of 30 something values with other DBs a trade is a no brained.

                                My point is that IF he would have been pick 17 as many expected had we stood pat, you won’t make a trade unless the other team offers stupid compensation.

                                I would suggest that if someone wanted a player that bad he goes in a the first.

                                I don’t think we disagree. My point is if they trade the pick, it tells us they never liked Peezy to begin with.

                                I just think that the move up does not tell us that just yet.

                                ”If” they happen to think like me, they would see it as getting TWO GUYS they saw as top 20 talents.
                                Exactly.
                                If they really had Porter at #17, they wouldn’t still have pick #32 today.
                                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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