Dinosaur head coach

[feltdizz]

Seems silly and dishonest to suggest sone of the sane people celebrate 9-8 or barely making the playoffs the same way they would celebrate being a #1 seed.

Who the hell would do that?

However, being happy we backed into the playoffs is possible. I would always like one more game after the regular season ends.

Celebrating a blowout loss? Well.. there certainly are sone on here who do that and enjoy seeing it happen. They admitted as much.

“I want Tomlin to stick around so we can see him fail and prove I’m right”

Sone of those sane people also admitted they want to see the team win.. and Tomlin lose, if it was possible.

[feltdizz]

A lot of moving goal post when it comes to that.

yup.. like saying you want to team to win then turning right around and telling everyone you want to see Tomlin fail to
prove you were right.

and then having the nerve to deny you want us to lose right after saying it.

[NJ-STEELER]

A lot of moving goal post when it comes to that.

moving them.

creating new ones out of thin air

etc etc

[Steel Maniac]

moving them.

creating new ones out of thin air

etc etc

Your right.

[hawaiiansteel]

A lot of moving goal post when it comes to that.

you mean like predicting that Lamar Jackson was going to be a total flop and bust in the NFL and set the Ravens franchise back 5 years?

and after he wins a NFL MVP award, then claiming you were right because the new lucrative contract LJ signs with Baltimore is going to set them back 5 years?

[Captain Lemming]

I would just update my sig from 3 to four

A lot of moving goal post when it comes to that.

Yes there is a lot of moving goal posts alright.

The hypocrisy is hilarious.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Joel,

Tomlin has lost a loss of SEVEN in a row. Yet..the Tomlin lovers stand with him. And that's fine. But... why would he all of a sudden be great if he won ONE playoff game in his last 8 attempts?? He wouldn't. I would just update my sig from 3 to four but his playoff record over the last 12-13 years is still pathetic. Just like it took years for him to be bad, it would take years of positive production to look good. One playoff win out of 8 wouldn't all of a sudden justify Tomlin's playoff prowess.

I don't love or hate Tomlin. I realize that he is a good HC. He may never become a great or HOF head coach.

Tomlin didn't LOSE anything by HIMSELF. Tomlin can provide a plan for what's needed to win vs the opposition. Sometimes he got fooled, his players didn't play well enough, or something else.

What we know is that Tomlin can lead a team to win games and reach championship level. This is not easy to accomplish regardless of the HC. 2022 is an example of how the season began and how this team grew and progressed. That was Tomlins coaching ability and leadership skills on full display.

Tomlin may never be as good/great overall coach as Reid or BB. Reid didn't win a championship until PM came a long. BB without Brady is?????????

I tell you guys that players win games. Coaches provided the guidance for players. At some point it's up to the players to exhibit their greatness regardless of coaching.

[whisper]

I don't love or hate Tomlin. I realize that he is a good HC. He may never become a great or HOF head coach.

Tomlin didn't LOSE anything by HIMSELF. Tomlin can provide a plan for what's needed to win vs the opposition. Sometimes he got fooled, his players didn't play well enough, or something else.

What we know is that Tomlin can lead a team to win games and reach championship level. This is not easy to accomplish regardless of the HC. 2022 is an example of how the season began and how this team grew and progressed. That was Tomlins coaching ability and leadership skills on full display.

Tomlin may never be as good/great overall coach as Reid or BB. Reid didn't win a championship until PM came a long. BB without Brady is?????????

I tell you guys that players win games. Coaches provided the guidance for players. At some point it's up to the players to exhibit their greatness regardless of coaching.

And yet, they bother to keep all of those coaching records, what a waste of time.

[BURGH86STEEL]

And yet, they bother to keep all of those coaching records, what a waste of time.

Why waste your time being a Steelers fan if you don't believe this organization will eventually get it right again?

[whisper]

Why waste your time being a Steelers fan if you don't believe this organization will eventually get it right again?

"Beep, beep. I'm MKIA. I know everything. Beep, beep."

[Joel Buchsbaum]

No, but if we fail to make the playoffs I will not be surprised if Tomlin is on the hot seat.

The only way I would want Tomlin fired is if we step back next season. If we don’t build on 9-8. I definitely expect 11 or 12 wins and a playoff appearance this year. If we finished 6-11 then yes, I would be fine with Tomlin being let go.

I’m already on record saying if we don’t reach a SB in the next 3 years its time for Tomlin to move on.

So we have to go 6-11 or worse for you to want Tomlin gone. Okay. You are fine with him in your opinion we go 7-10, of 8-9 and we have 3 years of keeping him if we don't win a super bowl. The Steelers are not winning 11 or 12 games under his coaching. You are a fool to expect this for the upcoming season.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I don't love or hate Tomlin. I realize that he is a good HC. He may never become a great or HOF head coach.

Tomlin didn't LOSE anything by HIMSELF. Tomlin can provide a plan for what's needed to win vs the opposition. Sometimes he got fooled, his players didn't play well enough, or something else.

What we know is that Tomlin can lead a team to win games and reach championship level. This is not easy to accomplish regardless of the HC. 2022 is an example of how the season began and how this team grew and progressed. That was Tomlins coaching ability and leadership skills on full display.

Tomlin may never be as good/great overall coach as Reid or BB. Reid didn't win a championship until PM came a long. BB without Brady is?????????

I tell you guys that players win games. Coaches provided the guidance for players. At some point it's up to the players to exhibit their greatness regardless of coaching.

Seeking out another more reasonable posters opinion . Define what makes him good. It isn't planing, execution or, picking the right OC, knowing when to use the red flag, managing time outs. It isn't side line coaching. Other head coaches are clearly more involved in the game. Leadership you say? Like allowing diva players like Bell, Brown, and Bryant to control things? Where is his guidance for the players?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Well it would depend on the season and the direction of the team. For example if we went 14-3 win the division and then drop a heart breaker in the playoffs, I wouldnt want the coach fired. Captain Lemming brings up a good question, if he wins a playoff game are you good with keeping him?

But he hasn't won a playoff game in SIX seasons and if will be seven seasons likely next year. If the Steelers have a good regular season next year, and the coaching is bettering we win a playoff game , sure I'll give Tomlin another year. But his contract expires in 2024. Anything less than that I want him gone. Out. The standard applies for ALL head coaches, who was the head coach in the NFL to go this long without a playoff win? Who? Go ahead and look him up if you can.

[Mr.wizard]

But he hasn't won a playoff game in SIX seasons and if will be seven seasons likely next year. If the Steelers have a good regular season next year, and the coaching is bettering we win a playoff game , sure I'll give Tomlin another year. But his contract expires in 2024. Anything less than that I want him gone. Out. The standard applies for ALL head coaches, who was the head coach in the NFL to go this long without a playoff win? Who? Go ahead and look him up if you can.

I dont care because I dont put a ton a stock in playoffs wins. Its a single elimination tourney which in my opinion doesnt tell you anything about coaching. The organization seems to agree with me, why would the usher in the Kenny Pickett era and a new GM if they didnt think Tomlin was the right guy?

[WindyCitySteel]

I don't love or hate Tomlin. I realize that he is a good HC. He may never become a great or HOF head coach.

Tomlin didn't LOSE anything by HIMSELF. Tomlin can provide a plan for what's needed to win vs the opposition. Sometimes he got fooled, his players didn't play well enough, or something else.

What we know is that Tomlin can lead a team to win games and reach championship level. This is not easy to accomplish regardless of the HC. 2022 is an example of how the season began and how this team grew and progressed. That was Tomlins coaching ability and leadership skills on full display.

Tomlin may never be as good/great overall coach as Reid or BB. Reid didn't win a championship until PM came a long. BB without Brady is?????????

I tell you guys that players win games. Coaches provided the guidance for players. At some point it's up to the players to exhibit their greatness regardless of coaching.

That's a pretty fair post. IMO, the coach's job is to maximize talent and put players in a position to succeed, and I don't think he does a great job at that, especially on offense. That's because he defines "success" on offense as something different than what the best teams do.

I think he'll continue to produce winning seasons, but they'll always be too impotent on offense to compete in the playoffs in a stacked AFC.