The difference between Purdy and Pickett

[Buzz]

Purdy had hot routes….

meanwhile, our OC is googling hot routes to try to figure out what they are

[Eich]

I know fans hate Canada but if the offense continues to improve I can see fans refusing to admit Canada had anything to do with it regardless of the evidence.

No clue why you defend Canada when he holds back Kenny. If you want to give him credit for some improvements, fine. But who should take the responsibility for the simplistic offensive misery we've witnessed for 2 seasons?

If next season, our offense improves in ppg, scoring before the half, passing yards, YAC and we play a mildly competitive game in the playoffs, I'll crown Canada an offensive guru. For now, for 2 seasons and 3 QBs, it's been an offensive $hit show until late in the 4th quarter when the QB is finally asked to do something.

Playing ultra-conservative, simplistic offense for 3.75 quarters and asking the defense to keep the game close until late in the 4th quarter might keep the winning season streak alive. But it's not going to win much more.

[WindyCitySteel]

No clue why you defend Canada when he holds back Kenny. If you want to give him credit for some improvements, fine. But who should take the responsibility for the simplistic offensive misery we've witnessed for 2 seasons?

If next season, our offense improves in ppg, scoring before the half, passing yards, YAC and we play a mildly competitive game in the playoffs, I'll crown Canada an offensive guru. For now, for 2 seasons and 3 QBs, it's been an offensive $hit show until late in the 4th quarter when the QB is finally asked to do something.

Playing ultra-conservative, simplistic offense for 3.75 quarters and asking the defense to keep the game close until late in the 4th quarter might keep the winning season streak alive. But it's not going to win much more.

I'm not sure why people are still blaming Canada. At best, Tomlin endorses this offense. At worst, it's his.

[feltdizz]

No clue why you defend Canada when he holds back Kenny. If you want to give him credit for some improvements, fine. But who should take the responsibility for the simplistic offensive misery we've witnessed for 2 seasons?

If next season, our offense improves in ppg, scoring before the half, passing yards, YAC and we play a mildly competitive game in the playoffs, I'll crown Canada an offensive guru. For now, for 2 seasons and 3 QBs, it's been an offensive $hit show until late in the 4th quarter when the QB is finally asked to do something.

Playing ultra-conservative, simplistic offense for 3.75 quarters and asking the defense to keep the game close until late in the 4th quarter might keep the winning season streak alive. But it's not going to win much more.

Sure.. if those things improve you don’t have to call him a guru. Just admit you see improvement instead of giving credit to everyone but him.

While people poo poo the offense with Kenny, if our running game was a little better earlier in the year or Mitch plays just a little but better we probably win 11 games.

It wasn’t pretty but the conservative offense was effective for a QB’s rookie year IMO. If it doesn’t improve then you can throw a fire Canada parade but its foolish to keep repeating the same sh!t over and over like its Kenny’s 4th year.

[Buzz]

Sure.. if those things improve you don’t have to call him a guru. Just admit you see improvement instead of giving credit to everyone but him.

While people poo poo the offense with Kenny, if our running game was a little better earlier in the year or Mitch plays just a little but better we probably win 11 games.

If Mitch had had the opportunity to go to hot routes he might have played "just a little better," and we might have won a couple more games

it boggles the mind that a 5-year veteran NFL QB, brought in to be the starter, was not given that ability

and why would you not begin working it in to the offense a few games after you bring Kenny in as the starter? I understand dumbing things down at first, but it's not like it was a brand new concept to KP -- he'd utilized hot routes quite a bit in college

It wasn't pretty but the conservative offense was effective for a QB's rookie year IMO. If it doesn't improve then you can throw a fire Canada parade but its foolish to keep repeating the same sh!t over and over like its Kenny's 4th year.

Sure, it was effective if your goal was merely to get to .500 or better, and you didn't mind putting your 1st-round rookie QB at increased risk of getting hurt. And what other NFL team waits until a QB is in his "4th year" to give him the ability to use hots?

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/01/pat-freiermuth-admits-steelers-didnt-have-hot-routes-built-into-offense/

[blacknblue80s]

Two possibilities.

1, Our OC doesn't have these type of plays. If that is the case shame on him and I blame the man who hired him ( Tomlin ).

2. We do have more than 2 play action calls, but Pickett at his low score 17 on the wonderlic is too stupid to learn the this simple offense, but not Purdy.

Ask Matt Steel which is it.

Ok, I'll ask him and get right back to you.

[hawaiiansteel]

meanwhile, our OC is googling hot routes to try to figure out what they are

he's reading up on them as we speak -

[feltdizz]

If Mitch had had the opportunity to go to hot routes he might have played "just a little better," and we might have won a couple more games

it boggles the mind that a 5-year veteran NFL QB, brought in to be the starter, was not given that ability

and why would you not begin working it in to the offense a few games after you bring Kenny in as the starter? I understand dumbing things down at first, but it's not like it was a brand new concept to KP -- he'd utilized hot routes quite a bit in college


Sure, it was effective if your goal was merely to get to .500 or better, and you didn't mind putting your 1st-round rookie QB at increased risk of getting hurt. And what other NFL team waits until a QB is in his "4th year" to give him the ability to use hots?

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/01/pa...-into-offense/

who said anything about waiting 4 years? I said its been 12 games. Stop acting like its been years with Kenny at QB.

and Mitch is a stiff. Does he look like someone who can digest a ton of information?

[NJ-STEELER]

Purdy had hot routes….

Embarrassing.

there are people really preferring this clown over shanny

[feltdizz]

Purdy had hot routes….

[feltdizz]

“They think we have hot routes” - Jimmy G

[Joel Buchsbaum]

who said anything about waiting 4 years? I said its been 12 games. Stop acting like its been years with Kenny at QB.

and Mitch is a stiff. Does he look like someone who can digest a ton of information?

How may games should we give Pickett in your opinion? He has not shown the type of passing that that other good to very good QB have in their first 12 games starting.

[feltdizz]

How may games should we give Pickett in your opinion? He has not shown the type of passing that that other good to very good QB have in their first 12 games starting.

Its not games, its season’s.

He will get 4 years and a possible Joel.

You can keep posting this nonsense or accept reality and actually wait until you really see something that suggest the FO is ready to move on.

But keep entertaining the idea, I’m sure something will come of it. Just like Pierre on the outside!!!

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Its not games, its season’s.

He will get 4 years and a possible Joel.

You can keep posting this nonsense or accept reality and actually wait until you really see something that suggest the FO is ready to move on.

But keep entertaining the idea, I’m sure something will come of it. Just like Pierre on the outside!!!

I NEVER said Pierre must start. He was on the field once for the first play of the game. Show me the link were I said this! You continue to misconstrue what I said, likely because I correctly feel that Tomlin isn't the answer. Nor is Harris. See right through you we do.

Back to the point of the thread and question asked. No way will Pickett get this type of play for four years with the type of play he has shown. Okay you are on recored saying Pickett will get 4 years.

[Ghost]

This is a false narrative. Hot routes have nothing to do with injuries. QB's get pummeled by large men moving at high rates of speed. Kenny got hurt this year multiple times as well. It limits what a team can do to not have these options. There's no way to adjust to the defensive scheme and take advantage of the personnel on the field. How can not giving your QB every avenue to be successful be considered anything but bad.