The Greatest Pass ever...

[Captain Lemming]

I think its simply comparing plays made in SB’s. Doesn’t really have anything to do with FA.

While Bradshaw played with the same guys this is more about splash plays. Ben has tons in the regular season and the playoffs in his career, but he just didn’t have many great plays in his SB’s.

if Ben gets a little more on that pass to Wallace in the SB vs GB I could see that being the best pass ever if we won that game.

What is funny is that Ben was a WAY BETTER regular season QB regardless of "eras".

Just compared to his peers if you take out SBs, Terry was extremely talented but he made LOTS of bone head throws and got away with it because of the defense. As Terry matured he had a couple of real good regular seasons, but overall I don't think he was "great" in the regular season.

I don't think he sniffs HOF on another team.

Then in SBs he was literally, "THE BOMB."

A WAY BETTER SB QB THAN BEN.

[The Man of Steel]

I think it's hard to compare much before and after cap and UFA.
Both were great.

Also important is that Bradshaw played about half of his career prior to the two major rule changes of 1978. Without the Mel Blount rule in place for example Ben, Brady, Brees, etc don’t put up 5,000 yard passing seasons.

[Captain Lemming]

Don’t be so hard on Ben; he had …. never mind.

Ben had TWO, maybe 3 HOF teammates at any one team.

[Captain Lemming]

Also important is that Bradshaw played about half of his career prior to the two major rule changes of 1978. Without the Mel Blount rule in place for example Ben, Brady, Brees, etc don’t put up 5,000 yard passing seasons.

Ignore eras. ESPECIALLY before the rule change, Terry was not that good compared to "his peers" duringthe regular season.

Nobody benefited more from the change than Terry.

[papillon]

Ben had TWO, maybe 3 HOF teammates at any one team.

I count 4, Webster, Swann, Stallworth and Harris plus Terry himself.

[The Man of Steel]

Nobody benefited more from the change than Terry.

Except for Dan Fouts maybe.

[feltdizz]

I count 4, Webster, Swann, Stallworth and Harris plus Terry himself.

A big part of the reason Swann, Stallworth and Terry are HOFers is BECAUSE they made plays in the SB.

[Captain Lemming]

I count 4, Webster, Swann, Stallworth and Harris plus Terry himself.

People on defense are teammates too.

If you are talking offense only it kinda makes Terry's advantage bigger.

Ben played with ONE at any one time. Hines will never get in.

Faneca early Ben, Brown if he doesn't get punished for crazy on the later teams.

[Captain Lemming]

A big part of the reason Swann, Stallworth and Terry are HOFers is BECAUSE they made plays in the SB.

Yup.
I would suggest that possibly nobody in NFL history has as much of a legacy based on ONE GAME than Lynn Swann.

I would suggest he was the most famous receiver IN HISTORY (even non-football fans) until Jerry Rice based on just SB X.

If for example the playoff injury he suffered kept him out of that game he would never have become a household name, nevermind HOF.

[feltdizz]

Yup.
I would suggest that possibly nobody in NFL history has as much of a legacy based on ONE GAME than Lynn Swann.

I would suggest he was the most famous receiver IN HISTORY (even non-football fans) until Jerry Rice based on just SB X.

If for example the playoff injury he suffered kept him out of that game he would never have become a household name, nevermind HOF.

I grew up with Lynn Swann walking around our neighborhood as a teen. First time we saw him we all said “it looks like him, but it can’t be him, that dude is like 5’ 9”

then a few years back, I went home and my cousin’s son had a pee wee football game and he says “my son used to get the rock all the time until lil’ Swann showed up. Now all they do is pass” and I’m yapping
loud as hell “man, bump that, I don’t care how good he is my cuz needs to get some touches!!!”

a moment later Lynn Swann walks past, and he is even shorter than I remember and I go “hold up.. isn’t that Swann” and my cousin does what older cousins do and says “what part of lil Swann did you not understand?”

me: oooohhhhhh , I thought it was a nickname, like the kid played like Swann, I didn’t realize you meant..”

he just shook his head.

me: “well, its Swann’s son, shrugs shoulders. Can lil cuz hoop?”

[Starlifter]

I linked to that Super Bowl last week - it's a few pages back now, but still worth watching the whole game. Really a different era with style of play, rules etc. Definitely worth the 2 hours IMO....

[Captain Lemming]

I grew up with Lynn Swann walking around our neighborhood as a teen. First time we saw him we all said “it looks like him, but it can’t be him, that dude is like 5’ 9”

Funny thing I had a similar deal with Swann. Saw him up close when he was in Hawaii as a pro bowl commentator. I am 5'10 and he was listed at 6.0" and I'm like THAT DUDE AINT TALLER THAN ME.

[feltdizz]

Funny thing I had a similar deal with Swann. Saw him up close when he was in Hawaii as a pro bowl commentator. I am 5'10 and he was listed at 6.0" and I'm like THAT DUDE AINT TALLER THAN ME.

with 1 inch cleats and a helmet maybe he is 5’ 11”