Where Are All These OCs Blowing Away the League?

[NorthCoast]

Deebo's 66 yards of YAC and TD added 20 pts to his "passer rating". People act like the offense was dead before he took over. Two weeks before he got hurt, Jimmy GQ was 20-29, 228 with 4 TD, two weeks before that 21-25, 235, 2 TD. All told, Jimmy had 29 games with a 100+ passer rating under Shanny.

CJ Beathard had games with passer ratings of 115, 123, and 125 in SF under Shanny.

Nick Mullens: 102, 108, 110, 128, 152.

The passer rating is just an indication of receivers having no one around them for most passes. Imagine DJ or GP with a 5 yd headstart before being touched.

[WindyCitySteel]

The passer rating is just an indication of receivers having no one around them for most passes. Imagine DJ or GP with a 5 yd headstart before being touched.

I know, it's the most QB-friendly system ever, which is why it irks me when they compare him to Montana and Young.

[feltdizz]

Not going to dog out Purdy. He is playing well. Product of the system? Maybe.. I think this next game will tell us if he is headed for a long career in SF or simply another system QB since Dallas D looks to be a bit stingy.

I do find it odd that some people are acting like we missed on Purdy like he was the next QB off the board. Dude went last but we all know even undrafted players end up balling out from time to time.

I get it though, some people can’t watch football and enjoy it unless they are using it as a weapon to bash the Steelers.

He’s playing good ball right now. Why can’t people enjoy it without trying to turn it into a case study… lol.

[crushedspirit]

You're fixated on raw counting stats. Purdy "accounted for" Deebo's 66 yards of YAC how, by throwing the short pass behind him so he had to do a 360 before running?

Not fixated on raw stats because I watched him play. Tua lived on YAC all season, as has many QBs over the years, including the GOAT himself in his best years. You are breaking down 1 pass like a ball has never been thrown a little behind a WR. Also, as per PFF ratings, Jimmy G has never eclipsed 65.5 in 6 playoff starts. Brock hit 73.6 in his first ever playoff start, and 7th start overall.

[NorthCoast]

Not going to dog out Purdy. He is playing well. Product of the system? Maybe.. I think this next game will tell us if he is headed for a long career in SF or simply another system QB since Dallas D looks to be a bit stingy.

I do find it odd that some people are acting like we missed on Purdy like he was the next QB off the board. Dude went last but we all know even undrafted players end up balling out from time to time.

I get it though, some people can’t watch football and enjoy it unless they are using it as a weapon to bash the Steelers.

He’s playing good ball right now. Why can’t people enjoy it without trying to turn it into a case study… lol.

This is what happens when you build a team before drafting a QB. Great OL, great defense, outstanding skill position players. Not unlike what Roethlisberger stepped into in his rookie season.

[crushedspirit]

People also forget 49ers hit on late picks and castaways, including Kittle, Brendel, Greenlaw, Warner, and their mini-Troy, Hufanga.

[papillon]

This is what happens when you build a team before drafting a QB. Great OL, great defense, outstanding skill position players. Not unlike what Roethlisberger stepped into in his rookie season.

You can use the Bengals as the opposite, drafted Burrow and Chase, then started building the team around them. Either way can work, I like building the foundation first then the shiny pieces but either way can be successful.

Pappy

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Why Are All These OCs Blowing Away the League?


Two main reasons. They have a good head coach that runs the offense or a good OC AND they have a good quarterback. You really need both. Do we have them?

[Steel Maniac]

Purdy gets his biggest test to date next week against the Cowboys. I'm very interested to see if he's still cool, calm and collected in this game like he's been in most games so far.

[WindyCitySteel]

Not fixated on raw stats because I watched him play. Tua lived on YAC all season, as has many QBs over the years, including the GOAT himself in his best years. You are breaking down 1 pass like a ball has never been thrown a little behind a WR. Also, as per PFF ratings, Jimmy G has never eclipsed 65.5 in 6 playoff starts. Brock hit 73.6 in his first ever playoff start, and 7th start overall.

73.6 is decent, way off from the 132 passer rating, which of course makes sense when you watch the game.
And it's not just one pass, NC showed the graphic that the bulk of his rating came while throwing to receivers open by 5+ yards.

You're straddling a weird fence here citing his contextual grade while simultaneously driving the Brock Purdy Hype Train.

[feltdizz]

This is what happens when you build a team before drafting a QB. Great OL, great defense, outstanding skill position players. Not unlike what Roethlisberger stepped into in his rookie season.

true.. but remember the 49ers also had 3 or 4 seasons with 6 or less wins to help build that foundation.

I know people don’t want to hear it but we are just now entering the second year of our rebuild on offense. While some teams dip to 4 wins.. we dip to 9 wins and I think next year is when we turn the corner.

I get why some would prefer a 4 or 6 win season to take advantage of higher picks but that isn’t how we operate. We will always try to win as many games as possible.

and lets be real, at 2-6 this place was messy and the pitchforks were out. People claim they want it but no one enjoys a 4 win season.

[crushedspirit]

73.6 is decent, way off from the 132 passer rating, which of course makes sense when you watch the game.
And it's not just one pass, NC showed the graphic that the bulk of his rating came while throwing to receivers open by 5+ yards.

You're straddling a weird fence here citing his contextual grade while simultaneously driving the Brock Purdy Hype Train.

Not driving his train at all. He's been good running Shanny's system. He hasn't been ground breaking, but hasn't needed to be. His test will come, but you guys down playing it severely is actually what's weird.

Why are you stating passer ratings over PFF ratings now? Make up your mind which one you value more. I already listed the 263th pick overall scored higher in his first playoff start than Jimmy G in any of his 6 under the same system.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Not driving his train at all. He's been good running Shanny's system. He hasn't been ground breaking, but hasn't needed to be. His test will come, but you guys down playing it severely is actually what's weird.

Why are you stating passer ratings over PFF ratings now? Make up your mind which one you value more. I already listed the 263th pick overall scored higher in his first playoff start than Jimmy G in any of his 6 under the same system.

+1 Purdy as a rookie appears to be the real deal as in a top ten QB. He will win rookie of the year.

[crushedspirit]

+1 Purdy as a rookie appears to be the real deal as in a top ten QB. He will win rookie of the year.

He's going to get his first real test vs a hungry Dallas front in his 8th start as a rookie. Going to be interesting to see how he responds under duress.

[TheRealTazz864]

Why Are All These OCs Blowing Away the League?


Two main reasons. They have a good head coach that runs the offense or a good OC AND they have a good quarterback. You really need both. Do we have them?

WHERE not WHY...

Nice try, Joel... Now will you contend that I'm trolling you because you changed the question??