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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #31
    Originally posted by papillon
    No, they're comparing his style of play in general, not Montana's success compared to Pickett's. Montana was good on the run, in the clutch, the moment never seemed too big and his arm strength was good enough, Pickett is showing all of that early in his career. They play similar styles, if someone was comparing him to Marino, I'd agree that's ludicrous but Montana is a good comparison from a style standpoint, imo.

    Pappy
    Ok, I appreciate the clarification. I assumed they were saying he would be a top 5 NFL QB of all times which seems ridiculous to me. I can see some of the similarities in style.
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    • T.Ferguson
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2021
      • 2377

      #32
      Originally posted by Steelerphile
      Kenny is just getting started and he has won two clutch, must win games in the last two minutes. Does he remind you of anyone, Big Ben, Joe Montana? By next year, he will be even better. They made a good choice drafting Pickett.
      I think I mentioned a while back that he reminds me of Montana actually. Obviously not saying he'll be anywhere as good but his style sort of reminds me of him. Montana was actually pretty athletic and could move around, their throwing styles are fairly similar imo.

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      • papillon
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 11340

        #33
        Originally posted by Shawn
        Ok, I appreciate the clarification. I assumed they were saying he would be a top 5 NFL QB of all times which seems ridiculous to me. I can see some of the similarities in style.
        At least, I hope that's what they are comparing, comparing careers, wins and losses etc. would be silly (to be nice).

        Pappy
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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #34
          Originally posted by papillon
          At least, I hope that's what they are comparing, comparing careers, wins and losses etc. would be silly (to be nice).

          Pappy
          I didn't assume that either. I assumed they were saying KP is going to be a top 5 all time franchise QB at some point.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35648

            #35

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            • Steelerphile
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2008
              • 1198

              #36
              Originally posted by papillon
              No, they're comparing his style of play in general, not Montana's success compared to Pickett's. Montana was good on the run, in the clutch, the moment never seemed too big and his arm strength was good enough, Pickett is showing all of that early in his career. They play similar styles, if someone was comparing him to Marino, I'd agree that's ludicrous but Montana is a good comparison from a style standpoint, imo.

              Pappy
              This explains what I meant perfectly. I doubt Pickett will make the HOF because it is such a high bar, but then again he is just getting started.

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              • Ernie
                Legend
                • Aug 2013
                • 8470

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Welcome aboard, plenty of seats.. snack car is 2 cars to the back.
                Haha.. its good to be right every now and again...
                Keeps folks honest...

                Btw save me a seat next to the beer cooler lol

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15684

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Ok, I appreciate the clarification. I assumed they were saying he would be a top 5 NFL QB of all times which seems ridiculous to me. I can see some of the similarities in style.
                  I can only speak for myself, but the Montana comparisons from me were mostly style related, with the tongue-in-cheek somewhat trolly predictions that he'll have the same career.

                  The overarching point is that there is more than one type of franchise QB, they don't all have rocket arms.

                  Also a pet peeve that QB projections seem to be solely based on physical traits, and nobody seems to have a problem with outrageous comps like "Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen", when in reality I think it's more likely Kenny has a Brees-type career than that happening.

                  The position is still played mostly from the neck up, more than ever with the complexity of offenses (outside of ours, of course) and defenses.
                  Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 01-02-2023, 09:52 AM.

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    No doubt that was a clutch drive and a super clutch throw to win the game. Congrats to the Steelers and KP. I hate to be this dude but are we really comparing him to Montana again after a 55% 168 yard game? I mean I get the excitement about the win but come on.
                    Two consecutive weeks are closed with long drives with only ONE pass hitting the ground. Yes, I call that accurate.

                    I think much of the overall reason for a modest percentage is Kenny is told to throw it away over a risky pass. I'm going to start a thread to elaborate.
                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 01-02-2023, 10:37 AM.
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                    • NorthCoast
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #40
                      Guess me and Ron Cook are the lone holdouts to board the Pickett train.
                      He played a good game last night. And he made plays when he had to. Nice to see the growth.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #41
                        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                        I can only speak for myself, but the Montana comparisons from me were mostly style related, with the tongue-in-cheek somewhat trolly predictions that he'll have the same career.

                        The overarching point is that there is more than one type of franchise QB, they don't all have rocket arms.

                        Also a pet peeve that QB projections seem to be solely based on physical traits, and nobody seems to have a problem with outrageous comps like "Malik Willis is the next Josh Allen", when in reality I think it's more likely Kenny has a Brees-type career than that happening.

                        The position is still played mostly from the neck up, more than ever with the complexity of offenses (outside of ours, of course) and defenses.
                        2 weeks with game winning drives and people are still wondering if Kenny has IT??? lol..

                        Notice a few weeks ago people were still talking about how only Ben could pul out these types of wins.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Rocky Mtn
                          Backup
                          • Jun 2022
                          • 492

                          #42
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          2 weeks with game winning drives and people are still wondering if Kenny has IT??? lol..

                          Notice a few weeks ago people were still talking about how only Ben could pul out these types of wins.
                          The game winner KP tossed last night was a thing of beauty and a sight to behold.

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                          • WindyCitySteel
                            Legend
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 15684

                            #43
                            PFF recap pod saying good things about Kenny, said the limiting factor is Canada's offense, which doesn't scheme any "free yards", as they put it. It's all on the players beating their man.

                            Season grade up to 74.5, must have had a really good game grade.

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                            • fordfixer
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 10922

                              #44
                              He has definitely been Kenny Klutch the last couple of weeks.

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                              • Northern_Blitz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24373

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                Guess me and Ron Cook are the lone holdouts to board the Pickett train.
                                He played a good game last night. And he made plays when he had to. Nice to see the growth.
                                I'm here too

                                More optimistic than I was two weeks ago.

                                But a long way to go before being a legit franchise qb

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