With a favorable schedule can we make ( the 5-7 Steelers ) the playoffs ?

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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
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    #16
    When comping Pickett to guys with similar physical skills, why does everyone settle for middle of the road guys?

    Kenny is closer to being the next Drew Brees than he is career losers like Cousins or Carr - he's got all the intangibles, similar to Brees, who didn't do anything of note in the NFL until his 4th season.

    Even Herbert with his live arm is still a sub-.500 QB for his career, Christ, Kenny is even .500 now.
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 12-07-2022, 02:38 PM.

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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      When comping Pickett to guys with similar physical skills, why does everyone settle for middle of the road guys?

      Kenny is closer to being the next Drew Brees than he is career losers like Cousins or Carr - he's got all the intangibles, similar to Brees, who didn't do anything of note in the NFL until his 4th season.
      . Brees Please keep the jokes coming.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • Shawn
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        • Mar 2008
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        #18
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        While I'd like KP to the next Mahommes, Hebert, etc...I think he will more likely be the next Kirk Cousins which isn't bad, but he is the type of QB you need to have a strong supporting cast around.
        . Cousins is a fair assessment of KPs ceiling. Be careful you might get labeled a negative Nancy.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • whisper
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          • Mar 2020
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          #19
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          While I'd like KP to the next Mahommes, Hebert, etc...I think he will more likely be the next Kirk Cousins which isn't bad, but he is the type of QB you need to have a strong supporting cast around.
          This just in hayseed: What championship QB didn't need a strong supporting cast around them to win a title. I'll be waiting right here. They ALL needed a strong supporting cast. Bradshaw? Elway? Aikman? Favre? Maybe Brady didn't need quite as much but his Ds were stacked.

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          • WindyCitySteel
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            • Nov 2011
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            #20
            Originally posted by Shawn
            . Brees Please keep the jokes coming.
            Do you have a real argument other than begging the question? Why can't he be? What did Brees have that Kenny doesn't?

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            • SteelerOfDeVille
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              • May 2008
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              #21
              Originally posted by Shawn
              . Cousins is a fair assessment of KPs ceiling. Be careful you might get labeled a negative Nancy.
              pssh... I've been saying Hasselback, which is also in that "above average-to-good, but not Great" class... soo, it seems that most of us agree that he's not likely elite... but, he is QB that you CAN win with - in the end, that's all we ALL want
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              • whisper
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                • Mar 2020
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                #22
                The bigger question is "Do you want to make the playoffs" only to get beat down, giving up over 40 points (we have the last THREE playoff games we played) and made to look down right foolish?

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                • hackjam
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                  • Sep 2021
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                  #23
                  Looking at it, they could legitimately go 9-8.

                  Baltimore @ Home w/o Lamar
                  @Carolina. They're not particularly good
                  Raiders @ Home. They're on a nice little streak but they've also lost to Indy and Jax.
                  @Baltimore... This could be Lamar's first game back, though he hasn't proven to be a huge difference maker against the Steelers anyway
                  Cleveland @ Home... Be interesting to see how Watson is playing by then.

                  I think they win at least 2 of those games but 4 is not out of the question.

                  Of course if they do that it probably means another year of Canada (if we're not already at that point). That'd be the worst part of it all.

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                  • SteelerOfDeVille
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                    • May 2008
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by whisper
                    This just in hayseed: What championship QB didn't need a strong supporting cast around them to win a title. I'll be waiting right here. They ALL needed a strong supporting cast. Bradshaw? Elway? Aikman? Favre? Maybe Brady didn't need quite as much but his Ds were stacked.
                    Even brady consistently was under paid so the team could have more $$ to upgrade other positions...
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                    • WindyCitySteel
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      . Brees Please keep the jokes coming.
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      Do you have a real argument other than begging the question? Why can't he be? What did Brees have that Kenny doesn't?

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                      • Shawn
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                        • Mar 2008
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        pssh... I've been saying Hasselback, which is also in that "above average-to-good, but not Great" class... soo, it seems that most of us agree that he's not likely elite... but, he is QB that you CAN win with - in the end, that's all we ALL want
                        . Well it appears a couple posters believe he is a HOFr…ie Montana and Brees.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • WindyCitySteel
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                          #27
                          More on Brees' first three years. Most of you would have given up on him by then:

                          10-17 record, 540-909, 59%, 5613 yards, 6.17 YPA, 29 TD, 31 INT

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                          • Oviedo
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Eich
                            A team can win it all with a Kirk Cousins.

                            And ALL super bowl winning teams need to have a strong supporting cast around.

                            The GOAT has always needed it to amass all those rings. And even the year that he had the most unbelievable weapons of all time, he couldn't win it all. It takes a lot of things to go right to win a ring.

                            Right now, Aaron Rodgers is struggling to score points. One of the best pure passers to ever play. He needs a better supporting cast.

                            The formula is there for the Steelers to get ring 7 with KP8 in the next few years. Start stacking the team with more playmakers while KP8 is on the cheap.

                            Totally agree. Keep the defense dominant and get play makers. That said, do you go after playmakers or better Off Line? Decisions. Decisions.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Shawn
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                              • Mar 2008
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                              . I’ve already made my arguments ad nauseam. I certainly have more support for my assessment than you do comparing him to two future HOFrs.
                              Trolls are people too.

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                              • Oviedo
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                                • May 2008
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                                Even brady consistently was under paid so the team could have more $$ to upgrade other positions...

                                Brady was underpaid because he had a wife that was worth more than him. It's not much sacrifice when you are both worth hundreds of millions. Unlikely any team is ever in that situation...ever.
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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