With a favorable schedule can we make ( the 5-7 Steelers ) the playoffs ?

[whisper]

Even brady consistently was under paid so the team could have more $$ to upgrade other positions...

I'm just saying from an offensive star angle, he never had that much help, other than the one season with Moss. Gronk was certainly a star, Welker and a few other "little" guys were pesky at WR, so so RBs, good OL. Great Ds.

[WindyCitySteel]

. I’ve already made my arguments ad nauseam. I certainly have more support for my assessment than you do comparing him to two future HOFrs.

No you haven't. What traits does he lack that make Brees unattainable? Did Brees also lack those his first three years?

[Oviedo]

. Cousins is a fair assessment of KPs ceiling. Be careful you might get labeled a negative Nancy.

I don't think the Cousins comparison is negative at all. Cousins is a QB that has been to the Pro Bowl and a starter for two franchises. I actually think very highly of him. He's just not the guy who is going to deliver miracle late in the 4th Qtr.

[Shawn]

I can pull up a much lengthier list of QBs with crap stats that flamed out of the league. And go back to my original assessment on KP after the draft. That will tell you all you need to know.

[TheRealTazz864]

I'm just saying from an offensive star angle, he never had that much help, other than the one season with Moss. Gronk was certainly a star, Welker and a few other "little" guys were pesky at WR, so so RBs, good OL. Great Ds.

"But besides all that... it was a great night at the theater"~~ Mary Todd Lincoln....

[WindyCitySteel]

I can pull up a much lengthier list of QBs with crap stats that flamed out of the league. And go back to my original assessment on KP after the draft. That will tell you all you need to know.

I'm not going to dig up your old posts, if you can't quickly make your argument again here it's because you likely don't have one.

[TheRealTazz864]

The bigger question is "Do you want to make the playoffs" only to get beat down, giving up over 40 points (we have the last THREE playoff games we played) and made to look down right foolish?

Umm... the offense didn't give-up 40 points, did it??

[Northern_Blitz]

When comping Pickett to guys with similar physical skills, why does everyone settle for middle of the road guys?

Kenny is closer to being the next Drew Brees than he is career losers like Cousins or Carr - he's got all the intangibles, similar to Brees, who didn't do anything of note in the NFL until his 4th season.

Even Herbert with his live arm is still a sub-.500 QB for his career, Christ, Kenny is even .500 now.

I think comparing to guys who are consistent pro-bowlers and / or future hall of famers is dangerous for guys who haven't done anything yet. Start with more modest comps. Let guys earn comparisons to great players by playing great.

Not every Safety that has a sub-par first years goes on to be Troy P. In fact, only one safety has ever gone on to be Troy. I don't think we'll ever see a guy that plays like him again.

[Northern_Blitz]

I think comparing to guys who are consistent pro-bowlers and / or future hall of famers is dangerous for guys who haven't done anything yet. Start with more modest comps. Let guys earn comparisons to great players by playing great.

Not every Safety that has a sub-par first years goes on to be Troy P. In fact, only one safety has ever gone on to be Troy. I don't think we'll ever see a guy that plays like him again.

I also don't think we'll ever see anyone play like this guy again either.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cbtWfvbQRfY

[Shawn]

I don't think the Cousins comparison is negative at all. Cousins is a QB that has been to the Pro Bowl and a starter for two franchises. I actually think very highly of him. He's just not the guy who is going to deliver miracle late in the 4th Qtr.

. I agree. But those who believe KP is Montana and Brees believe it’s negative.

[Shawn]

I'm not going to dig up your old posts, if you can't quickly make your argument again here it's because you likely don't have one.

Do you think I want to waste my time searching to prove myself to the likes of you? Come on man get a grip. I have no desire to repeat myself yet again.

[WindyCitySteel]

I don't think the Cousins comparison is negative at all. Cousins is a QB that has been to the Pro Bowl and a starter for two franchises. I actually think very highly of him. He's just not the guy who is going to deliver miracle late in the 4th Qtr.

. I agree. But those who believe KP is Montana and Brees believe it’s negative.

He's a stat accumulator with a career record barely over .500 who isn't clutch, and would be winless in the playoffs if not for a Stephon Diggs miracle.

Not bad for a 4th round pick, but if that's the ceiling for Kenny it was a bad pick.

In fact, I think you are both retrofitting that comp to confirm your bias about Kenny.

[WindyCitySteel]

Do you think I want to waste my time searching to prove myself to the likes of you? Come on man get a grip. I have no desire to repeat myself yet again.

The "likes of me"? And why would you have to search for your previous arguments, you don't know how you feel about Kenny unless you look it up?

[hackjam]

More on Brees' first three years. Most of you would have given up on him by then:

10-17 record, 540-909, 59%, 5613 yards, 6.17 YPA, 29 TD, 31 INT

I think we can all appreciate that Brees is an outlier. It's also fair to note that the line above looks a lot like JP Losman's with Buffalo. For every Brees, there are like 10000 JP Losman types.

[Shawn]

He's a stat accumulator with a career record barely over .500 who isn't clutch, and would be winless in the playoffs if not for a Stephon Diggs miracle.

Not bad for a 4th round pick, but if that's the ceiling for Kenny it was a bad pick.

In fact, I think you are both retrofitting that comp to confirm your bias about Kenny.

and you don’t have bias? You are the only robot here who clearly sees facts from fiction? We all have bias. You literally have nothing to support your claims. And to re-write my post draft KP breakdown for just you isn’t something I’m willing to engage.