Sacks allowed back on the rise

[whisper]

Unfortunately you may be mistaking what would be board (and fan) consensus with what you expect the FO to do.

I think we mostly all hope that it would happen but this team has not shown any level of commitment in the OL and we are praying that a new GM combo will lead to a focus on the line. The best that I could say here is that I am less sure that the line will be ignored the way it was under Colbert.

You don't need a 1st rounder at all the 5 spots on an OL, but you must have a few studs, not zero, as we do now and we see the results. You need a solid center, a competent LT and one stud OG at least. We have none of those.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Unfortunately you may be mistaking what would be board (and fan) consensus with what you expect the FO to do.

That gave me a belly laugh, but it's so true.
It's rare that I see the obvious selection and the team actually *makes* it. Ben was the last one that i was 100% sold on that they selected.

Along the way, there were some guys that once the board played out, you expected that guy (Pickett, & Najee most recently were obvious choices once the board unfolded).

I think we mostly all hope that it would happen but this team has not shown any level of commitment in the OL and we are praying that a new GM combo will lead to a focus on the line. The best that I could say here is that I am less sure that the line will be ignored the way it was under Colbert.

Again true. There are a handful of positions that wouldn't surprise me.

For example, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Joey Porter Jr as the selection, due to position, ties with the organization and being a PSU kid.

On defense, I could see DLine, ILB and CB. Strangely enough, the only thing i see in the 1st on offense is o-line..

Anything else either side of the ball in the 1st would shock me... But, they've shocked me before, so... (I think my biggest shocker of all time was taking Troy Edwards and passing on Jevon Kearse shortly after losing Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green)

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

You don't need a 1st rounder at all the 5 spots on an OL, but you must have a few studs, not zero, as we do now and we see the results. You need a solid center, a competent LT and one stud OG at least. We have none of those.

The highest drafted Steeler Olineman on this roster is Kendrick Green, who doesn't even start. There is a huge gap between a first-rounder at every spot and this mess.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

That gave me a belly laugh, but it's so true.
It's rare that I see the obvious selection and the team actually *makes* it. Ben was the last one that i was 100% sold on that they selected.

Agree with Ben, it was the first time I remember thinking this is the guy that I absolutely am invested in. I'd watched his last two games (playoff game and bowl game) and knew he was who I wanted. Ironically, the team almost didn't draft him because instead some wanted.....an Olineman.

[hawaiiansteel]

The highest drafted Steeler Olineman on this roster is Kendrick Green, who doesn't even start. There is a huge gap between a first-rounder at every spot and this mess.

the Bears selected Daniels in the 2nd round of the 2018 Draft.

LT - Moore 4th
LG - Dotson 4th
C - Cole 3rd
RG - Daniels 2nd
RT - Okorafor 3rd

[NorthCoast]

Unfortunately you may be mistaking what would be board (and fan) consensus with what you expect the FO to do.

I think we mostly all hope that it would happen but this team has not shown any level of commitment in the OL and we are praying that a new GM combo will lead to a focus on the line. The best that I could say here is that I am less sure that the line will be ignored the way it was under Colbert.

Philly (Weidl & co) showed a willingness to draft linemen early in the draft. Hope this rubs off on Khan & Co.

[whisper]

Philly (Weidl & co) showed a willingness to draft linemen early in the draft. Hope this rubs off on Khan & Co.

Philly rebuilt both lines in the last few years and happen to sport the best record in the NFL right now. Gee whiz, Shades. Are we learning anything yet?

[BURGH86STEEL]

Philly (Weidl & co) showed a willingness to draft linemen early in the draft. Hope this rubs off on Khan & Co.

The Steelers showed they were willing to draft lineman early in the draft over the years.

[whisper]

The Steelers showed they were willing to draft lineman early in the draft over the years.

And in the last 10?????????

2022- None
2021 - 3rd, 4th
2020 - 4th
2019 - 7th
2018 - 3rd
2017 - none except a LS 6th
2016 - 4th
2015 - none
2015 - 5th
2014 - 5th
2013 - none

You were saying???????????????

[BURGH86STEEL]

And in the last 10?????????

2022- None
2021 - 3rd, 4th
2020 - 4th
2019 - 7th
2018 - 3rd
2017 - none except a LS 6th
2016 - 4th
2015 - none
2015 - 5th
2014 - 5th
2013 - none

You were saying???????????????

What I will say is that you cut your analysis short.

In 2010 the Steelers selected Pouncey in the 1st round. 2011 the Steelers selected Heyward in the 1st round and Gilbert in the 2nd round. In 2012 the Steelers selected Decastro in the 1st round and Adams in the 2nd round. 2014 the Steelers selected Tuitt in the 2nd round.

So where should the Steelers invest in future drafts if they have X dollars and 1st and 2nd round picks tied up into positions?

Should the Steelers be drafting Watt's replacement in 2023?

How about if the STeelers sign and paid FA's to do the job? Where should the STeelers invest in the next draft? Give players time to jell? Cut them lose right away if they don[t play perfectly? This NFL process isn't easy. It's easy for fans to be overly critical without taking all the factors into consideration.

[Northern_Blitz]

What I will say is that you cut your analysis short.

In 2010 the Steelers selected Pouncey in the 1st round. 2011 the Steelers selected Heyward in the 1st round and Gilbert in the 2nd round. In 2012 the Steelers selected Decastro in the 1st round and Adams in the 2nd round. 2014 the Steelers selected Tuitt in the 2nd round.

So where should the Steelers invest in future drafts if they have X dollars and 1st and 2nd round picks tied up into positions?

Should the Steelers be drafting Watt's replacement in 2023?

How about if the STeelers sign and paid FA's to do the job? Where should the STeelers invest in the next draft? Give players time to jell? Cut them lose right away if they don[t play perfectly? This NFL process isn't easy. It's easy for fans to be overly critical without taking all the factors into consideration.

Yep. Time to do this again.

Maybe slow down on the 2nd round WRs for a bit?

[Steel Maniac]

The Steelers showed they were willing to draft lineman early in the draft over the years.

You said over the years when clearly , by his chart not in a decade. Gotcha!!

[whisper]

What I will say is that you cut your analysis short.

In 2010 the Steelers selected Pouncey in the 1st round. 2011 the Steelers selected Heyward in the 1st round and Gilbert in the 2nd round. In 2012 the Steelers selected Decastro in the 1st round and Adams in the 2nd round. 2014 the Steelers selected Tuitt in the 2nd round.

So where should the Steelers invest in future drafts if they have X dollars and 1st and 2nd round picks tied up into positions?

Should the Steelers be drafting Watt's replacement in 2023?

How about if the STeelers sign and paid FA's to do the job? Where should the STeelers invest in the next draft? Give players time to jell? Cut them lose right away if they don[t play perfectly? This NFL process isn't easy. It's easy for fans to be overly critical without taking all the factors into consideration.

Yea, I said what about the last 10 years? Pouncey was longer ago than that. What don't you understand?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

the Bears selected Daniels in the 2nd round of the 2018 Draft.

LT - Moore 4th
LG - Dotson 4th
C - Cole 3rd
RG - Daniels 2nd
RT - Okorafor 3rd

What I should have said is Steeler drafted OL. I don't really consider FAs by their draft rounds since the Steelers are not the team that invested the pick in them.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Philly (Weidl & co) showed a willingness to draft linemen early in the draft. Hope this rubs off on Khan & Co.

I guess we will find out the FO hierarchy when it comes to the draft.

If AR2 is the main guy then might not change.
If Weidl has been given the reins then we could see a huge change in draft philosophy.
If Kahn is the guy then we don't know - I don't think he will be the top boss when it comes to drafting.
If Tomlin is the guy then likely no change - I don't think he is the top boss when it comes to drafting either.

My belief and hope is that Weidl was brought in to handle all personnel, including the draft.