Here is our debate on video...Kenny Pickett starting.

[Northern_Blitz]

While I think he lights it up…

I’m fine of he plays as well and is a game manager early on and grows with experience. I set high expectations because I’m familiar with Kenny and think he has that “IT” but it doesn’t mean he has to be all world his rookie year if he starts day 1 for me to feel good about his future.

Personally I just feel like if Pickett is just as good as MR and MT (I feel he is better) then why wait? He’s older than Jaylen Hurts who is about to start his 3rd season. Let him grow while playing since the other QB’s aren’t anything special and only
had 1 start between the 2 of them last year.

Honestly, some of our best years were when Ben was a game manager with a limited offense.

But we also had a generationally good defense that peaked for the 1st SB run.

[Steel Maniac]

Since I don't see our D holding Cinci down, the QB is going to have to produce more than 20 points. Can he? Can MT score in the 30's?

I see about 20-24 at the most. Hard to tell because he's going to be running for his life. It could be real ugly depending on the O-line.

[hawaiiansteel]

Since I don't see our D holding Cinci down, the QB is going to have to produce more than 20 points. Can he? Can MT score in the 30's?

I highly doubt it.

I have very little faith in Matt Canada as an OC, and Trubisky hasn't shown me much so far in his career.

[feltdizz]

Listen to the quarterback whisperer Shannahan on rookie QBs (he didn't start TL until end of the season):



Remember, the season is 17 games which is a tough transition for any rookie. You start KP Wk1 and in November he's hitting the rookie wall. Why not let him watch for the first month of the season? Then it's a normal college season for him.

Trey Lance?
The same Trey Lance that only had 17 college starts and 318 passing attempts for his whole CAREER at North Dakota State?

Sure.. bring him along slowly if you have Jimmy G making 27 mill per and winning with a run heavy offense.

This aint that…

and what rookie QB has ever hit a wall due to the NFL grind? That is a concern for OL or RB’s but I have never heard of a rookie QB hitting a wall due to a long season.

If we draft OL first round or first 2 rounds will you want them to sit the first few weeks out of fear of the rookie wall?

[Oviedo]

Since I don't see our D holding Cinci down, the QB is going to have to produce more than 20 points. Can he? Can MT score in the 30's?

Everything went right for the Bumgals at the end of last season. I think they will hit a lot of Post Super Bowl potholes which is normal. I'll go on record now that they won't win the AFC North

[TheRealTazz864]

Since I don't see our D holding Cinci down, the QB is going to have to produce more than 20 points. Can he? Can MT score in the 30's?

MT is empty at around 20 pts.......

[feltdizz]

Everything went right for the Bumgals at the end of last season. I think they will hit a lot of Post Super Bowl potholes which is normal. I'll go on record now that they won't win the AFC North

Everyone assumes they are ready to defend the crown but we shall see. Its hard to sustain the same success after a SB appearance.

[whisper]

Everyone assumes they are ready to defend the crown but we shall see. Its hard to sustain the same success after a SB appearance.

It's difficult, but if Burrows is who he appears to be, teams with a legit franchise QB are always in the hunt. And with those weapons on O....Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon.

[TheRealTazz864]

It's difficult, but if Burrows is who he appears to be, teams with a legit franchise QB are always in the hunt. And with those weapons on O....Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon.

Pitchforks y'all..... A Bungle!!

[feltdizz]

It's difficult, but if Burrows is who he appears to be, teams with a legit franchise QB are always in the hunt. And with those weapons on O....Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon.

We had Ben and it seemed like we always dipped immediately after a SB appearance. Not sure if it was the grind or the turnover of players.

Not saying the Bengals will fade but its hard to keep that same momentum and sometimes losing 2 or 3 players is the difference. Wonder what they lost on defense?

[NorthCoast]

Trey Lance?
The same Trey Lance that only had 17 college starts and 318 passing attempts for his whole CAREER at North Dakota State?

Sure.. bring him along slowly if you have Jimmy G making 27 mill per and winning with a run heavy offense.

This aint that…

and what rookie QB has ever hit a wall due to the NFL grind? That is a concern for OL or RB’s but I have never heard of a rookie QB hitting a wall due to a long season.

If we draft OL first round or first 2 rounds will you want them to sit the first few weeks out of fear of the rookie wall?

Quarterback Mac Jones played efficient and effective football through most of a seven-game winning streak that lifted the Patriots into first place in the AFC East, but the last two weeks have not been as sharp.

Jones has gone 40-of-77 for 444 yards, two touchdowns, and four interceptions in back-to-back losses that have knocked the Patriots back down behind the Bills with two weeks left in the regular season. The downturn in production led to a question for offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels about whether Jones is hitting the so-called rookie wall as the NFL season moves beyond the number of games he played in a year at Alabama.

“He’s doing fine,” McDaniels said, via Steve Hewitt of the Boston Herald. “No concern on that. Each rookie kind of handles that differently. There’s always a stretch during the course of the middle of the season that’s a little bit new to him, because when you count the preseason games, preseason work, starting in July, usually that happens somewhere towards the end of October, middle of November, somewhere in there

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[Captain Lemming]

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So let me get this right. 10 games as a rookie by Joe Burrow right?

Mac Jones same year, full college schedule INCLUDING THREE post season games. I would suggest his 2020 was more akin to a NFL rookie schedule than Burrow had.

2021 after playing a near NFL 2020 schedule Mac Jones rookie wall?

Burrow? Only ONE QURTERBACK IN HISTORY has more NFL starts in a season than 2021 Joe Burrow.

Burrow never had a true rookie season to get acclimated.

So the fact that he was technically not a rookie makes all the difference?

[feltdizz]

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“He’s doing fine, no concern on that”

its weird they would suggest Mack Jones hit the rookie wall. He threw 3 passes in the last win vs Buff during that 7 game streak.

and he only threw 3 passes because it was 40 mph winds.

Is it really that surprising to lose 2 games to Indy and Buffalo after winning 7 straight? Is it not possible to not look sharp vs 2 good teams?

I don’t buy that one at all.

[feltdizz]

So let me get this right. 10 games as a rookie by Joe Burrow right?

Mac Jones same year, full college schedule INCLUDING THREE post season games. I would suggest his 2020 was more akin to a NFL rookie schedule than Burrow had.

2021 after playing a near NFL 2020 schedule Mac Jones rookie wall?

Burrow? Only ONE QURTERBACK IN HISTORY has more NFL starts in a season than 2021 Joe Burrow.

Burrow never had a true rookie season to get acclimated.

So the fact that he was technically not a rookie makes all the difference?

notice how that rookie wall is always brought up when a player hits a rough patch..

but its never brought up when they don’t?

[flippy]

It's difficult, but if Burrows is who he appears to be, teams with a legit franchise QB are always in the hunt. And with those weapons on O....Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon.

And if Kenny is who he appears to be with his weapons…