Moats thinks Spillane playing over Bush could mean something in camp

[BURGH86STEEL]

I think they are looking to rotate the LB's and the DL this year, I think they believe that guys just got wore down last season.

Personally I think it could boil down to certain situations based on the opposition. Spillane is good at making decisions when he diagnoses an offensive play quickly.

Spillane wasn't good at recognition in the passing game. He doesn't have the speed necessary to recover when he was caught in a bad coverage situation. That being said, if Spillane has worked to develop his read and recognition skills then that will make him a better player at defending the pass. \

Players that make it in the NFL develop at different paces. Maybe this is the year Spillane breaks out as a player?

We will see once the real lights go on.

[TheRealTazz864]

I cant believe your making a joke out of this, this is serious business. There has been name calling on an internet forum and there is even a guy who hasnt started one thread! This board is out of control!

OK, Karen....

[TheRealTazz864]

Who cares if it was confirmed by NFL sources, it is the time reported he ran. Saying he didnt run a 4.45 is dishonest since it is the only time we have reported for him. Now what I find even more telling is you called me a liar without even looking up the information first.

So it's true if someone puts it on the internet?? Or does it have to be confirmed by official sources to be "reported??" I mean if I say someone (lets just use Mr.wizard as an example...) was seen down by the river in a white van, distributing candy to little boys; that doesn't mean it's true, even if I "reported" it... (It ISN'T true, right??)

[Bawb the Revelator]

OK, Karen....

Great Caesar's Ghost, you've TOPPED yourself again, Bro Taz! SNL awaits!

[TheRealTazz864]

I'm asking you to provide any link for that source. We'll see if the link says the NFL confirmed it. I care, because your dishonest about keeping that information out that is was not confirmed by NFL sources and are using a college " reported " time.

...no time for apostrophe's either, I guess... This is how civilization crumbles...

[Bawb the Revelator]

Great Caesar's Ghost, you've TOPPED yourself again, Bro Taz! SNL awaits!

[Let me be perfectly clear, as our most talented Comedian-POTUS Richard M. Nixon would say: Mr. Wizard was only an example used by Bro Taz to illustrate that any adult who is seen passing out candy to children is NOT - I repeat "NOT" - necessarily a child molesting pervert. I hope things are clearer - B. the R.]

[Mr.wizard]

So it's true if someone puts it on the internet?? Or does it have to be confirmed by official sources to be "reported??" I mean if I say someone (lets just use Mr.wizard as an example...) was seen down by the river in a white van, distributing candy to little boys; that doesn't mean it's true, even if I "reported" it... (It ISN'T true, right??)

It is reported by Sources at Alabama where he ran the 40 yard dash and that what's reported. Just because it wasn't reported or didn't happen in the NFL doesn't mean it didn't happen or isn't sourced. Try reading and comprehending, if you have a problem with it, take it up with Alabama, and the number of sites that reported it. Instead of trying to be a condescending prick, you could just use google.

[Mr.wizard]

OK, Karen....

It was sarcastic, but funny you don't say anything to Joel and Whisper who have been screaming for the manager for two days.

[TheRealTazz864]

Great Caesar's Ghost, you've TOPPED yourself again, Bro Taz! SNL awaits!

Didn't NBC cancel SNL??

[Bawb the Revelator]

Didn't NBC cancel SNL??

if so, **** 'em. There's Comedy Central. Maybe Alex Jones needs help after the Sandy Hook verdict. Think big, Taz

[TheRealTazz864]

[Let me be perfectly clear, as our most talented Comedian-POTUS Richard M. Nixon would say: Mr. Wizard was only an example used by Bro Taz to illustrate that any adult who is seen passing out candy to children is NOT - I repeat "NOT" - necessarily a child molesting pervert. I hope things are clearer - B. the R.]

Although it's now been reported that Mr.Wizard Was a candy-offering, white van owning, river-dweller; it also has been reported that Mr.wizard was not a candy-offering, white van owning, river-dweller... Now who do you believe?? (Hint: octogenarians are dubious, at best... )

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Quote Originally Posted by TheRealTazz864 View Post
So it's true if someone puts it on the internet?? Or does it have to be confirmed by official sources to be "reported??" I mean if I say someone (lets just use Mr.wizard as an example...) was seen down by the river in a white van, distributing candy to little boys; that doesn't mean it's true, even if I "reported" it... (It ISN'T true, right??)

It is reported by Sources at Alabama where he ran the 40 yard dash and that what's reported. Just because it wasn't reported or didn't happen in the NFL doesn't mean it didn't happen or isn't sourced. Try reading and comprehending, if you have a problem with it, take it up with Alabama, and the number of sites that reported it. Instead of trying to be a condescending prick, you could just use google.

No NFL teams believes in campus times. They are often bogus. That's why teams spend money going to the combine and pro days which Harris did not run in. Everybody gets those times and they are accurate.

You weren't talking to me in this reply but I thought you should know.

[Mr.wizard]

No NFL teams believes in campus times. They are often bogus. That's why teams spend money going to the combine and pro days which Harris did not run in. Everybody gets those times and they are accurate.

You weren't talking to me in this reply but I thought you should know.

That isnt the point and i dont know how you arent getting this. The fact that the NFL doesnt use the times has nothing to do with the fact that is the time we have for Harris reported. It's not that the times are considered "bogus", they are still considered relatively accurate but they are hand timed so there maybe differences usually in milliseconds. Meaning his time maybe accurate at 4.45 or it maybe inaccurate at like a 4.48 or it could be the other way at 4.42. Its not liked he ran a 4.8 and the guy at Alabama timing him said, " ya lets round that to 4.45". Even if the hand timed 40 was off by a full tenth of a second and it was 4.55, that is still fast for a back and fast enough to break runs. The 40 time is just a red herring because breaking runs and running outside the tackles is not about sprinting in a straight line on a track.

[TheRealTazz864]

No NFL teams believes in campus times. They are often bogus. That's why teams spend money going to the combine and pro days which Harris did not run in. Everybody gets those times and they are accurate.

You weren't talking to me in this reply but I thought you should know.

I think the bottom line is that 40-times in general cannot be used as an accurate measure of an RB's effectiveness... Now if they ran a "Superstars-esque" obstacle course, that would be pretty bitchin'....

[NorthCoast]

That isnt the point and i dont know how you arent getting this. The fact that the NFL doesnt use the times has nothing to do with the fact that is the time we have for Harris reported. It's not that the times are considered "bogus", they are still considered relatively accurate but they are hand timed so there maybe differences usually in milliseconds. Meaning his time maybe accurate at 4.45 or it maybe inaccurate at like a 4.48 or it could be the other way at 4.42. Its not liked he ran a 4.8 and the guy at Alabama timing him said, " ya lets round that to 4.45". Even if the hand timed 40 was off by a full tenth of a second and it was 4.55, that is still fast for a back and fast enough to break runs. The 40 time is just a red herring because breaking runs and running outside the tackles is not about sprinting in a straight line on a track.

There was a post about NFL combine times awhile ago. They use a combination of hand and laser. Hand start, laser finish. Pretty sure the human hand can have an error ±0.05 seconds from one timing to the next. The debate is getting into the weeds I think.