My early camp thoughts.

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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    No.. you don't get a better view on the web. This is like Kyler Murray saying there are "different way's to process and watch film"

    Nothing wrong with having an opinion but the threat title made it sound like you were at camp.
    Yes, you do on many plays. I can see your ignorant. I said I wasn't at camp but base my opinions on what is shown sometimes from a better vantage point then the fans get, and a triangulation if consensus points made. I don't see you disagreeing with anything. I'm giving my opinion based on that. You may skip my posts. Please do. I don't write them for you, only to see you come back with wrong info such as your don't get a better view on the web. Sometime you do. Understand?
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 08-05-2022, 02:28 PM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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    • whisper
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      • Mar 2020
      • 9423

      #17
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      And Pickett to get 4th Q scraps.
      How many snaps will KP get 1st team reps with 1st team OL and skill players?

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27568

        #18
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        Yes, you do on many plays. I can see your ignorant. I said I wasn't at camp but base my opinions on what is shown sometimes form a better vantage point then the fans get, and a triangulation if consensus points made. I don't see you disagreeing with anything. I'm giving my opinion based on that. You may skip my posts. Please do. I don't write them for you, only to see you come back with wrong info such as your don't get a better view on the web. Sometime you do. Understand?
        yeah.. I'm the ignorant one.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27568

          #19
          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
          Yes, you do on many plays. I can see your ignorant. I said I wasn't at camp but base my opinions on what is shown sometimes form a better vantage point then the fans get, and a triangulation if consensus points made. I don't see you disagreeing with anything. I'm giving my opinion based on that. You may skip my posts. Please do. I don't write them for you, only to see you come back with wrong info such as your don't get a better view on the web. Sometime you do. Understand?
          yeah.. I'm the ignorant one.

          like I already said in another post. It's too early to really have a strong opinion on camp after 3 days.
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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
            • 24382

            #20
            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
            My early camp thoughts.

            QB Rudolph, yes Rudloph is the best out there at least for now, and this is utterly disapointing because we gave 3x his money to Trubisky and spent our first round pick on Pickett. Rudolph is a free agent next year.

            Trubisky has disapointed so far. Pickett is playing like a rookie QB who has limited game experience like Trey Lance so I can't excuse him and his multiple interceptions, in-accuracy, and overall play because he is " in-experience " on in college. Reports say ( if you believe them ) that he was the most NFL ready in the QB class. That doesn't appear to be the case and he's not playing well vs the 3rd stringers, which brings me back to Rudolph, who played reasonably well for a rookie in his 1st NFL camp...if you can remember. I'm not saying he's a bust. But so far I trust my own eyes that his arm is a little weak by the standard of NFL QB's and he was a one year wonder despite playing 40+ games vs weak competition. I'm judging him on his starting point, and I'm disappointed.


            Wide Receivers.

            Pickens. Wow. Are you seeing those highlight catches and not the check down variety vs the #1 defense? Are you seeing his speed? His vice like hands? His moves, and his size? He has a lot to learn in terms of routes, but this isn't a weekly type of event it's turning into a daily type of event. I am impressed. You've heard the term 50/50 balls? Well, with Pickens they are more like 60/40 catches.

            Austin III has shown good hand and moves. He's a keeper. Very quick and ultra-fast.

            I have heard much from Claypool. Johnson is basically sitting from palying and if he's traded for a 2nd round pick, which I hope he is, I'm totally fine with that because I think Pickens has better star potential, and Austin is a real keeper. Gunner has made plays, but his real value is on special teams.

            I may do the other position later. Don't shoot or congratulate the messenger!
            I agree that it's disappointing that Mason seems like the best QB out there so far. But reports I read / heard said that Mitch played pretty well yesterday (Fri). So hopefully he can displace Mason soon. I wonder if Mason also starts to falter once they start having more contact. Seems like pocket awareness isn't his strongest suit.

            Agree on Pickens. And will be interested to see what happens with Austin once we start hitting.

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            • Northern_Blitz
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              • Dec 2008
              • 24382

              #21
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Are people really surprised the QB who has been here the longest has the best start to camp?
              I wonder how much "been here the longest" matters at this point though.

              I bet there isn't much game planning.

              And it's not like he's hugely familiar with the WRs that are there and practicing.

              It's not the end of the world, but it is a bit worrisome that the other guys aren't looking as good (although I heard Mitch looked better on Friday).

              And reports on Pickett haven't been encouraging yet (plenty of time left though). Sounds like he's been pretty inaccurate...which is the opposite of his billing.

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              • Northern_Blitz
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                • Dec 2008
                • 24382

                #22
                Originally posted by whisper
                How many snaps will KP get 1st team reps with 1st team OL and skill players?
                ...and against the 1st team D.

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                • WindyCitySteel
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                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15684

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  ...and against the 1st team D.
                  You would hope the QBs wouldn't be taking turns shining and carving up the first team D, and as it turns out, they're not. Heard TJ was a beast yesterday.

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                  • Joel Buchsbaum
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                    • Jan 2021
                    • 7744

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    You would hope the QBs wouldn't be taking turns shining and carving up the first team D, and as it turns out, they're not. Heard TJ was a beast yesterday.
                    They were when Ben was near in his prime his camp stats were excellent. Remember them? That wasn't so long ago, and the defense is not better but worse overall. Our new QB's are just plain bad so far in camp. That has to change or get ready to see Rudolph starting.
                    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                    • Bawb the Revelator
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 1975

                      #25
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      You would hope the QBs wouldn't be taking turns shining and carving up the first team D, and as it turns out, they're not. Heard TJ was a beast yesterday.
                      I'd hope they're not dumping MR. if early days hold Mason's the best in camp so far,,

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                      • Joel Buchsbaum
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                        • Jan 2021
                        • 7744

                        #26
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        yeah.. I'm the ignorant one.
                        Your listening to yourself? If you listen to me, other posters won't grill you as much. Like I said it's early, you got that right. Why you can't admit the web sometimes offers you a better view is mystifying. A football field is a big place, and your don't always get a close up view, a freeze fame, or an instant reply in camp to review plays. Next up, is admitting your mistakes. It will make you a better poster. I'll even back you if you do.
                        Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                        Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                        *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27568

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          Your listening to yourself? If you listen to me, other posters won't grill you as much. Like I said it's early, you got that right. Why you can't admit the web sometimes offers you a better view is mystifying. A football field is a big place, and your don't always get a close up view, a freeze fame, or an instant reply in camp to review plays. Next up, is admitting your mistakes. It will make you a better poster. I'll even back you if you do.
                          if you are going to call someone ignorant try to use proper grammar when doing it.

                          you aren’t seeing every play and you are relying on reports from other people.
                          Last edited by feltdizz; 07-31-2022, 05:10 PM.
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                          • Joel Buchsbaum
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                            • Jan 2021
                            • 7744

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            if you are going to call someone ignorant try to use proper grammar when doing it.
                            I am recovering form a bad accident from a car who hit when I was walking on the sidewalk. I and sent you and a few posters a PM about it. I recently had surgery on my neck and spine because of it. The grammar use is due to the pain med's on. Trust me, you don't want to go through what I am.
                            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27568

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                              I am recovering form a bad accident from a car who hit when I was walking on the sidewalk. I and sent you and a few posters a PM about it. I recently had surgery on my neck and spine because of it. The grammar use is due to the pain med's on. Trust me, you don't want to go through what I am.
                              sorry to hear that but it still doesn’t let you off the hook if you want to insult someone.
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                              • Mr.wizard
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                                • May 2014
                                • 6686

                                #30
                                Watching camp on the web is not giving you a better view for player evaluation, especially at QB. It's the reason the coach's are down at field level, they can gauge reaction, velocity, vision, recognition, and so much more. But maybe for a guy like Joel who claims to be able to clock 40 times by eye on tv it's a piece of cake.

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