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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    Madden: Steelers champs of false bravado

    Rashard Mendenhall’s fumble contributed mightily to the Steelers losing Super Bowl XLV in 2011. Except Mendenhall says it wasn’t a fumble. The now-retired running back tweeted thusly: “I never fumbled that ball. I was SEPARATED from the ball 4 yards into the backfield. That’s the RB equivalent of a strip


    Love him or hate him, he is right once again. So much false bravado coming from the players these days, do you think a Hoodie team would be caught dead saying these things?

    But no, Claypool meant top-three receiver in the entire NFL: “I am not like the rest of the guys in the NFL.”

    That’s true in some respects. For example, no other receiver in the NFL jumps and falls down on every catch. Some actually run through receptions like you’re supposed to.

    Like Mendenhall, Claypool is best known for a mistake: His idiotic, time-wasting first-down celebration that cost the Steelers a play in a failed late-game drive at Minnesota last Dec. 9. The Vikings won 36-28.

    Cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon listed himself among the NFL’s top five cornerbacks.

    Witherspoon has spent five seasons in the NFL and started less than half his teams’ games.

    If Witherspoon covered Claypool, perhaps one would have a chance to live up to his ego. It would more likely be a Mexican standoff of sub-mediocrity.

    But that’s how the Steelers are. They haven’t won a playoff game in five seasons, but there’s been no shortage of chest-beating in the interim.

    The Steelers are 100% a players’ team.

    Mike Tomlin is a players’ coach.

    Art Rooney II is a players’ owner. Everybody gets paid.

    T.J. Watt got paid. Minkah Fitzpatrick got paid. Johnson will get paid. (Johnson’s not a No. 1-level receiver, but might get north of $18 million per season. It would be smarter to flush that money through a woodchipper.)

    That management style isn’t wrong. If you win.

    But if the Steelers don’t win, they can just say they did. A lot of fanboys would believe it.

    Mendenhall says he didn’t fumble.

    Claypool says he’s a top-three receiver.

    Witherspoon says he’s a top-five cornerback.

    Watt should say he’s a Rhodes Scholar. The next day’s headline: “Steelers Star To Study At Oxford.”

    The Steelers are kings of fake news, and beneficiary of lowered standards.

    Pittsburgh is no longer the City of Champions. It’s the City of Minimal Expectations.
  • Prowler
    Pro Bowler
    • Apr 2010
    • 1837

    #2
    I think the team is taking on the personality of its coach. After all Tomlin is the king of false bravado. Little substance behind his coach speak. Nevertheless, I hope Tomlin doesn't release hell on the fanbase all season. Wait a minute, he's already doing this with Matt Canada.








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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7744

      #3
      Madden has been right a lot lately . I find his style to be a brash writer who doesn't go into details, the again he right and doesn't have too or can't. Either way its tough to argue with him now. As a coach Tomlin sure has the divas more so that the others coaches do on average and that's not a good thing. A good coach control his players. You don't see these problems on good playoff teams of Jimmy Johnson, or Bill Belichick because they won't tolerate the distractions and lack of focus on their teams. Mike Tomlin does and is one of the many knocks against him.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #4
        Didn’t hoodie lose 47 to 17 in the playoffs last year?

        Being silent or vocal doesn’t win or lose games.

        and the Pats had a MURDERER on the team and Patrick Chung was caught with coke at his residence a year ago.

        and the owner was caught on tape getting a happy ending.

        If the Steelers had a murderer on their team you guts would say Tomlin was the mastermind.

        Not sure how anyone can use the Pats as an example of discipline. Cheating to win? Sure.. but discipline? As if.. lol
        Last edited by feltdizz; 06-21-2022, 04:34 PM.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #5
          Originally posted by whisper
          https://triblive.com/sports/mark-mad...-of-fake-news/

          Love him or hate him, he is right once again. So much false bravado coming from the players these days, do you think a Hoodie team would be caught dead saying these things?
          Hoodie got a beat-down in the playoffs just like the Steelers. Doesn't matter much who says what.

          Would you prefer they say 'woe is us', 'we suck', 'we don't have a chance, but we'll try real hard'??

          Dumb off-season take.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #6
            Originally posted by NorthCoast
            Hoodie got a beat-down in the playoffs just like the Steelers. Doesn't matter much who says what.

            Would you prefer they say 'woe is us', 'we suck', 'we don't have a chance, but we'll try real hard'??

            Dumb off-season take.
            Bills scored TD’s on their first SEVEN possessions last year in the playoffs vs the Pats.

            SEVEN!!!!
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • WindyCitySteel
              Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 15684

              #7
              LoL, didn't realize Spoon said that. Add in Mason Cole saying they're going to get Najee 2000 yards, and Devin Bush saying he has nothing to prove since he was a top ten pick.

              Madden has a point here.

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
                Legend
                • Jan 2021
                • 7744

                #8
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Didn’t hoodie lose 47 to 17 in the playoffs last year?

                Being silent or vocal doesn’t win or lose games.

                and the Pats had a MURDERER on the team and Patrick Chung was caught with coke at his residence a year ago.

                and the owner was caught on tape getting a happy ending.

                If the Steelers had a murderer on their team you guts would say Tomlin was the mastermind.

                Not sure how anyone can use the Pats as an example of discipline. Cheating to win? Sure.. but discipline? As if.. lol
                Didn't Hoodie win 8 super bowls? He is a no nonsense Chuck Noll type of coach. Like Chuck, Diva's didn't play for him...long anyway.

                He is considered a top 5 coach of all time and owns many records in the playoffs.
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • NorthCoast
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 26636

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Didn't Hoodie win 8 super bowls? He is a no nonsense Chuck Noll type of coach. Like Chuck, Diva's didn't play for him...long anyway.

                  He is considered a top 5 coach of all time and owns many records in the playoffs.
                  No, Hoodie didn't win 8 SBs. Brady did. Hoodie is still waiting for his first SB without Brady. So let's hear the 'he won't win another SB without TB'.

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                  • whisper
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                    Didn't Hoodie win 8 super bowls? He is a no nonsense Chuck Noll type of coach. Like Chuck, Diva's didn't play for him...long anyway.

                    He is considered a top 5 coach of all time and owns many records in the playoffs.
                    Diz' assertions are too asinine to respond to, in all honesty.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NorthCoast
                      No, Hoodie didn't win 8 SBs. Brady did. Hoodie is still waiting for his first SB without Brady. So let's hear the 'he won't win another SB without TB'.
                      Patriots fans are holding on to Bill Bellicheat for too long for what he did with Tom Brady.

                      They need to fire him now before he ruins Mac Jones' career the way Don Shula ruined Dan Marino's.

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                      • whisper
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 9423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Prowler
                        I think the team is taking on the personality of its coach. After all Tomlin is the king of false bravado. Little substance behind his coach speak. Nevertheless, I hope Tomlin doesn't release hell on the fanbase all season. Wait a minute, he's already doing this with Matt Canada.
                        Anyone paying bare minimum attention to this team can see the head coach is responsible for festering the "I'm too cool for school" 'tude, or whatever you want to call it. It even goes beyond Shades just being an "enabler" of it, evidence suggests he is also a generator of sorts of this 'tude. Whether it be from his personal antics of beating his chest, blowing kisses to the camera, dancing or swinging his whistle, "the fish stinks from the head" as does a team. He creates and enables this "me, me, me, look at me" 'tude that is leads to a non-winning attitude.

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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          No, Hoodie didn't win 8 SBs. Brady did. Hoodie is still waiting for his first SB without Brady. So let's hear the 'he won't win another SB without TB'.
                          Huh.

                          he was the DC fir the giants in 2 of their SB wins.

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                          • Prowler
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1837

                            #14
                            Originally posted by whisper
                            Anyone paying bare minimum attention to this team can see the head coach is responsible for festering the "I'm too cool for school" 'tude, or whatever you want to call it. It even goes beyond Shades just being an "enabler" of it, evidence suggests he is also a generator of sorts of this 'tude. Whether it be from his personal antics of beating his chest, blowing kisses to the camera, dancing or swinging his whistle, "the fish stinks from the head" as does a team. He creates and enables this "me, me, me, look at me" 'tude that is leads to a non-winning attitude.
                            I hear what you're saying. I've felt this way for several years now. It's gets harder and harder to watch this team under Tomlin's leadership. Without causing too much of a controversy, I'll only say that, "this definitely ain't a Bill Cowher or Chuck Noll led team, that is for sure".
                            Last edited by Prowler; 06-21-2022, 11:21 PM.








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                            • Bawb the Revelator
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Jan 2022
                              • 1975

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Prowler
                              I hear what you're saying. I've felt this way for several years now. It's gets harder and harder to watch this team under Tomlin's leadership. Without causing too much of controversy, I'll only say that, "this definitely ain't a Bill Cowher or Chuck Noll led team, that is for sure".
                              Is it up to a geriatric, black-in-law gimp like me to agree without bringing fake rage from the dumbass BLMers?

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