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  • Captain Lemming
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    • Jun 2008
    • 16041

    #46
    Originally posted by Shawn
    Harris will be better than Henry because he is more versatile. Watch what Canada does with him this year.
    People talk about "touches" as opposed to "carries". Yes Najee gets a ton of receptions. But those aren't all called plays for him. Dude just gets open and can catch.

    Other backs like Henry don't get near the receiving touches because they are not in Najees class as receivers.
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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #47
      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
      People talk about "touches" as opposed to "carries". Yes Najee gets a ton of receptions. But those aren't all called plays for him. Dude just gets open and can catch.

      Other backs like Henry don't get near the receiving touches because they are not in Najees class as receivers.
      Henry is a beast no doubt. But, he isnt Harris who is a beast who can be split out. Watch what Canada does with him this season.
      Last edited by Shawn; 06-12-2022, 02:18 AM.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • Steelerphile
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2008
        • 1198

        #48
        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        What running back gets the most touches?
        Derrick Henry averaged the most touches per game by a running back in 2021, with 29.6 per game.
        Whisper is so focused on disrespecting "Cool Shades" that he really does not do much thinking. In the grand scheme of things Najee Harris 307 carries is not an astronomically high number of carries. In the more recent NFL the running back position has become deemphasized and it is more rare for running backs to carry that often although he cites Derrick Henry, I suppose, as a back being used correctly, although he has closer to 400 carries than 300 carries.

        Back in the day players like Larry Johnson, James Wilder, Eric Dickerson and Eddie George got 400 carries. Jerome Bettis Had 5 seasons where he carried more than 307 times. One year he carried 375 times. I don't think "Cool Shades" coached the Bus. Even smaller backs like Barry Sanders, Tony Dorsett, Emmit Smith and Curtis Martin got 320 to 370 carries. That was in 16 game season.

        So I am not extremely concerned about 307. The Steelers did not have a prolific offense and Najee was not that efficient of a runner. I don't think he has the burst and he as fast as Henry. The 40 time at the combine does not tell the whole story. Turn on the tape and Henry is definitely faster on the football field. But I certainly think Harris can take it to another level this year and improve.
        Last edited by Steelerphile; 06-12-2022, 09:08 PM.

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #49
          Originally posted by Steelerphile
          Whisper is so focused on disrespecting "Cool Shades" that he really does not do much thinking. In the grand scheme of things Najee Harris 307 carries is not an astronomically high number of carries. In the more recent NFL the running back position has become deemphasized and it is more rare for running backs to carry that often although he cites Derrick Henry, I suppose, as a back being used correctly, although he has closer to 400 carries than 300 carries.

          Back in the day players like Larry Johnson, James Wilder, Eric Dickerson and Eddie George got 400 carries. Jerome Bettis Had 7 seasons where he carried more than 307 times. One year he carried 378 times. I don't think "Cool Shades" coached the Bus. Even smaller backs like Barry Sanders, Tony Dorsett and Curtis Martin got 320 to 370 carries. That was in 16 game season.

          So I am not extremely concerned about 307. The Steelers did not have a prolific offense and Najee was not that efficient of a runner. I don't think he has the burst and he as fast as Henry. The 40 time at the combine does not tell the whole story. Turn on the tape and Henry is definitely faster on the football field. But I certainly think Harris can take it to another level this year and improve.
          Here's a quick plot of career avg atts/gm vs career seasons played. Not much of a penalty for increasing atts/gm on a RB's career;

          [url=https://flic.kr/p/2nrnzRa][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2nrnzRa]Capture[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/191750946@N04/]R W[/url], on Flickr

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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 35649

            #50
            Originally posted by Steelerphile
            Whisper is so focused on disrespecting "Cool Shades" that he really does not do much thinking.
            Boom, mic drop.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #51
              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
              Boom, mic drop.
              There are those here with obvious agendas. Tomlin will be a HOF coach much to their chagrin. We are blessed to have such a strong coach at our helm. Does he have his flaws? Of course. But, I would place him in my top 2 of active head coaches.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35649

                #52
                Originally posted by Shawn
                I'm just curious as to why you called him homey harris.
                yet another fail by whisper...

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #53
                  Originally posted by whisper
                  Cash in? He was never the same after he left. Not even close. He went from a 4.9 avgpc to 3.2. Nice consolation prize.
                  He also took a full year off and lost his edge.

                  No one can ever say Bell wasn’t dynamic before that year off.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #54
                    I’ll actually give whisper a pass on the homey don’t play that. I thought it was a reference to In Living Color.

                    Homey Don’t Play That… the skit.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #55
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      I’ll actually give whisper a pass on the homey don’t play that. I thought it was a reference to In Living Color.

                      Homey Don’t Play That… the skit.
                      so he's saying Harris is a clown?

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #56
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        yet another fail by whisper...
                        I mean it's not even subtle. Like hating every black person in a "white position" or a position of power and control. It gets old reading it. Let players play. Let coaches coach and let the best man win. Why is that hard? Its 2022 geez.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #57
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          so he's saying Harris is a clown?

                          One of the funniest skits of all times. And my first introduction to my all time crush Jennifer Lopez. Dont tell my wife lol.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • whisper
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 9423

                            #58
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            I’ll actually give whisper a pass on the homey don’t play that. I thought it was a reference to In Living Color.

                            Homey Don’t Play That… the skit.
                            Thank you for not being obtuse. You actually "got it." Maybe Shawn is too young to get it.

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                            • whisper
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 9423

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              One of the funniest skits of all times. And my first introduction to my all time crush Jennifer Lopez. Dont tell my wife lol.
                              Then why didn't you understand the reference?

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                              • whisper
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2020
                                • 9423

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                I mean it's not even subtle. Like hating every black person in a "white position" or a position of power and control. It gets old reading it. Let players play. Let coaches coach and let the best man win. Why is that hard? Its 2022 geez.
                                WiTF are you even talking about? I see we have another "woke" champion, seeing racism around every single corner where there is none. Dear God, what's wrong with some of you?

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