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  • Mr.wizard
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    • May 2014
    • 6686

    #31
    Given that most of your running backs are not signing a second big contract it is more detrimental to their lively hood not to let them touch the ball a lot early in their career. A back has to play on his rookie deal for 4 years, then if he signs a deal it's usually at least another 4 years, now he has been in the league for 8 years and looking for another deal, this scenario is incredibly unlikely. If you start a guy off splitting snaps then give him a low ball deal and continue to split his snaps, what chance do you think that he eventually signs a big deal or picks up endorsement deals, it's so unlikely, you didn't help that guys career.

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    • whisper
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      • Mar 2020
      • 9423

      #32
      Originally posted by Mr.wizard
      Given that most of your running backs are not signing a second big contract it is more detrimental to their lively hood not to let them touch the ball a lot early in their career. A back has to play on his rookie deal for 4 years, then if he signs a deal it's usually at least another 4 years, now he has been in the league for 8 years and looking for another deal, this scenario is incredibly unlikely. If you start a guy off splitting snaps then give him a low ball deal and continue to split his snaps, what chance do you think that he eventually signs a big deal or picks up endorsement deals, it's so unlikely, you didn't help that guys career.
      One word: Henry. Signed mega deal.

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      • Mr.wizard
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        • May 2014
        • 6686

        #33
        Originally posted by whisper
        One word: Henry. Signed mega deal.
        And thats his first big deal, the Titans are in no hurry to limit his carries, if he gets a second mega deal he will be one of the rare backs to accomplish that. This is not an example of how it goes for running backs.

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        • whisper
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          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          #34
          Originally posted by Mr.wizard
          And thats his first big deal, the Titans are in no hurry to limit his carries, if he gets a second mega deal he will be one of the rare backs to accomplish that. This is not an example of how it goes for running backs.
          It's an example of how they can produce when you don't "run the wheels off them" as Shades brags about.

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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #35
            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
            Given that most of your running backs are not signing a second big contract it is more detrimental to their lively hood not to let them touch the ball a lot early in their career. A back has to play on his rookie deal for 4 years, then if he signs a deal it's usually at least another 4 years, now he has been in the league for 8 years and looking for another deal, this scenario is incredibly unlikely. If you start a guy off splitting snaps then give him a low ball deal and continue to split his snaps, what chance do you think that he eventually signs a big deal or picks up endorsement deals, it's so unlikely, you didn't help that guys career.
            I think teams should be in the business of maximizing their chances to win.

            Optimizing the career of any one player shouldn't be something they think about IMO.

            In fact, I think they should be kind of trying to see how they can get the most production for the least cap hit. Because that's how you maximize the talent on your team.

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            • Mr.wizard
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              • May 2014
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              #36
              Originally posted by whisper
              It's an example of how they can produce when you don't "run the wheels off them" as Shades brags about.
              But Henry wasnt that productive until he started getting between 300-400 touches.

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              • Bawb the Revelator
                Pro Bowler
                • Jan 2022
                • 1975

                #37
                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                I think teams should be in the business of maximizing their chances to win.

                Optimizing the career of any one player shouldn't be something they think about IMO.

                In fact, I think they should be kind of trying to see how they can get the most production for the least cap hit. Because that's how you maximize the talent on your team.
                Jim Brown is the Swiss Franc standard for RBs but that was when Mean Joe - 275 - and Lambert - 215 - were the NFL best. Today, it's "improved training methods!"

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                • Shawn
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  #38
                  I'm just curious as to why you called him homey harris.
                  Trolls are people too.

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                  • Bawb the Revelator
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jan 2022
                    • 1975

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    I'm just curious as to why you called him homey harris.
                    "It's a Black thang, [but unless you're Black] you wouldn't understand!"

                    [ Still another Dumb-As-A-Sack-Of-Hammers generalization]

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                    • Shawn
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bawb the Revelator
                      "It's a Black thang, [but unless you're Black] you wouldn't understand!"

                      [ Still another Dumb-As-A-Sack-Of-Hammers generalization]
                      LOL...exactly.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • Captain Lemming
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16041

                        #41
                        Originally posted by whisper
                        It's an example of how they can produce when you don't "run the wheels off them" as Shades brags about.
                        What running back gets the most touches?
                        Derrick Henry averaged the most touches per game by a running back in 2021, with 29.6 per game.
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Captain Lemming
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16041

                          #42
                          Originally posted by whisper
                          One word: Henry. Signed mega deal.
                          Right after a season (2020) when Henry had 378 carries. THAT was the season he became a superstar.

                          For reference Najee had 306 carries.

                          The last time we had a back with that many carries it was JEROME BETTIS. I blame Tomlin for that while a receiver AT WILLIAM AND MARY. Before that it was BARRY FOSTER who had EVEN MORE carries (nearly 400). Clearly Tomlin was calling our plays from from HIGH SCHOOL.
                          Last edited by Captain Lemming; 06-12-2022, 12:24 AM.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
                          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                          • Bawb the Revelator
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Jan 2022
                            • 1975

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            LOL...exactly.
                            OT [Obviously ] My sweet bride of 46 years was the 8th of 9 kids - who were mostly 3 years apart. Her mom was the 21st of 22 kids from the second marriage of a slave freed by the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation.] My bride's parents were married for 57 years.
                            Last edited by Bawb the Revelator; 06-12-2022, 12:19 AM.

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                            • Shawn
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Bawb the Revelator
                              OT [Obviously ] My sweet bride of 46 years was the 8th of 9 kids - mostly 3 years apart - of 22 kids from the second marriage of a slave freed by the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation.] Her parents were married for 57 years
                              Sounds like you have many stories and experiences. I would love to hear them. You have an email from me.
                              Trolls are people too.

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                              • Shawn
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 15131

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                What running back gets the most touches?
                                Derrick Henry averaged the most touches per game by a running back in 2021, with 29.6 per game.
                                Harris will be better than Henry because he is more versatile. Watch what Canada does with him this year.
                                Trolls are people too.

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