OT - The Early DeSean Watson Cleveland Browns NFL Suspension Line

[whisper]

If it was, and if it was alleged that Kraft was either involved with, or even knew about, human trafficking then he would and should be punished to the full extent of both the law and the almighty NFL. But I don't think that anyone made that connection.

Nope. Kraft went there with the expectation of a "happy ending," as did Watson. What's the difference?

[Northern_Blitz]

If it was, and if it was alleged that Kraft was either involved with, or even knew about, human trafficking then he would and should be punished to the full extent of both the law and the almighty NFL. But I don't think that anyone made that connection.

Seems like early reports said the reason the place was being investigated (which I think is why they found Kraft) was due to sex trafficking.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-robert-kraft-sex-trafficking-ring-worked-police-2019-2

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/03/21/robert-kraft-prostitution-plea-deal-offer-hurts-sex-trafficking-victims-column/3222601002/

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/why-was-robert-kraft-only-charged-solicitation-prostitution-sex-trafficking-ncna976361

But then they said no trafficking:

https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-kraft-massage-parlor-prosecutor-no-human-trafficking-2019-4

So who knows...

Hard to believe much of anything these days

Either way, I doubt that someone like Kraft would go down (pun intended) for something like this. Just like we haven't seen any of the clients get busted in that other high profile sex trafficking ring.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Nope. Kraft went there with the expectation of a "happy ending," as did Watson. What's the difference?

Consent (10 char)

[hawaiiansteel]

Consent

yup, HUGE difference.

[WindyCitySteel]

Nope. Kraft went there with the expectation of a "happy ending," as did Watson. What's the difference?

Consent (10 char)

[feltdizz]

If it was, and if it was alleged that Kraft was either involved with, or even knew about, human trafficking then he would and should be punished to the full extent of both the law and the almighty NFL. But I don't think that anyone made that connection.

I mean.. I have never been to one but they were popular in Philly.

While it was strictly pay to play I always had a feeling these women weren’t there because they liked that type of work. More like they were paying off debts to get green cards.

thing is… people that wealthy tend to pay for their pleasures so there is always going to be a bit of a gray area regarding legality.

[feltdizz]

yup, HUGE difference.

I mean.. does one really not know the difference? C’mon people.. smh.

[whisper]

yup, HUGE difference.

You mean all those MTs that went back a 2nd and 3rd time didn't know what the deal was with Watson? That would be really weird. How would that be the case?

[whisper]

I mean.. does one really not know the difference? C’mon people.. smh.

You mean all those MTs that went back a 2nd and 3rd time didn't know what the deal was with Watson? That would be really weird. How would that be the case?

[hawaiiansteel]

I mean.. does one really not know the difference? C’mon people.. smh.

apparently one poster here doesn't know the difference.

are you really all that surprised?

[whisper]

apparently one poster here doesn't know the difference.

are you really all that surprised?

Trying to incite flame wars again, no, not surprised, no one is. It's all you do.

[hawaiiansteel]

Trying to incite flame wars again, no, not surprised, no one is. It's all you do.

stop being such a hypocrite.

Prowler is right in that you "twist" things in a sometimes dishonest way to save face.

[feltdizz]

You mean all those MTs that went back a 2nd and 3rd time didn't know what the deal was with Watson? That would be really weird. How would that be the case?

Only thing weird is saying ALL of them.

I believe there were 66 and he settled with around 20 of them.

I think its odd when dudes act like if some of them were selling more than massages that means ALL of them were in on it.

Its possible Watson made unwanted advances on “some” of the women and not “ALL” of the women. No one should use absolutes or simplify their thinking to blame the women.

[feltdizz]

Trying to incite flame wars again, no, not surprised, no one is. It's all you do.

you asked what was the difference between going to a place that sells sexual favors and forcing women to perform sex favors.

Its like asking the difference between going to a strip club and forcing half your dates to strip.

[Bawb the Revelator]

Seems like early reports said the reason the place was being investigated (which I think is why they found Kraft) was due to sex trafficking.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-robert-kraft-sex-trafficking-ring-worked-police-2019-2

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/03/21/robert-kraft-prostitution-plea-deal-offer-hurts-sex-trafficking-victims-column/3222601002/

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/why-was-robert-kraft-only-charged-solicitation-prostitution-sex-trafficking-ncna976361

But then they said no trafficking:

https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-kraft-massage-parlor-prosecutor-no-human-trafficking-2019-4

So who knows...

Hard to believe much of anything these days

Either way, I doubt that someone like Kraft would go down (pun intended) for something like this. Just like we haven't seen any of the clients get busted in that other high profile sex trafficking ring.

FWIW it doesn't start with child molesting. It starts with Power and Divine Right of a few to do anything they want to anyone else. Consider Charles Koch's chosen 6-3 SCOTUS majority that voted not to limit the Coal Industry https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kagan-delivers-dissent-frightening-supreme-145332280.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

Power and Money trump Planetary Survival - including who gets to play in the NFL 10 years from now. That's "Politics." Try to keep PS 100% Politics Free. Hitler wanted Europe "100% Jew Free" lost. Charles Koch who grew up admiring Hitler's speeches won today.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/royal-absolutism-in-france-monarchical-power-louis-xiv.html
Just sayin'