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  • Shawn
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    • Mar 2008
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    Kenny Pickett the SMG breakdown

    Feltdizz was the only among us to predict his drafting. Then he predicted him to ball out. I want his dream to come true. But, I refuse to let feelings overrule rationality. Lets do the break down shall we?

    Pros:

    Size, speed, awareness in the pocket? Dear goodness if you are going to place a rookie behind a bad OL this is the guy.
    He avoids pressure with an eye in the back of his head. It reminds me of BB but he is faster.
    The way his head turns through progressions and almost always finds the deepest open man is stunning.
    I love his reads. He isn't a cowboy. He isn't a Farve. He takes what he sees.
    The way he can throw from different stances most impressed me. He can throw with velocity off his back foot or even side armed. (reminds me of Mahomes).
    He has an above average arm.
    He is not known as a rushing QB but the dude has wheels.
    He is consistently accurate. He makes terrific reads.
    He has a nice touch on the softer throws. He places balls in baskets. He is very accurate.
    Good decision making. Again isn't a cowboy. He is willing to take a smart loss.
    He broke massive records and grew as a QB during his time in PITT.

    Cons:
    I think he has good arm strength but no one has taught him to drive with his legs. So, I see wide open WRs waiting for balls.
    All of his big balls are with WRs who are wide open.
    Competition, who did he play against well? He lit up UNH, Western Michigan, Duke and Miami. None of these schools are known for defense.
    Most of his stats are against subpar competition.
    He struggled against subpar Ds. I mean he threw for 209 against Syracuse ranked 92nd in the nation.
    His arm strength to push is a window is at best adequate.
    He has poor mechanics.

    My impressions:

    He is the most NFL ready of all these QB prospects but he isn't ready. He has a lower ceiling than Willis, He isn't as good as any of the QBs in the NFC North. I think he is a reach as I have a late second round grade on him. I do however think with the right surrounding cast he can be successful. At this point, I do not see franchise QB and I would still place Trubisky ahead of him in talent. I truly hate to be a bubble buster. And I don't have a crystal ball. I pray Dizz is right but I don't see it. He needs time to develop and if you put him in the starting line up day one he will struggle.

    Best comparion Mitch Trubisky...Jimmy G.
    Last edited by Shawn; 05-01-2022, 03:02 PM.
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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
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    #2
    Don't get the Willis' ceiling comparison, 90% of QB play is above the neck, Willis light years away from Kenny in that regard and relies solely on athletic ability. What are the chances he becomes a full field reading precision QB? Without that, his ceiling is Kordell Stewart.

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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #3
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      Don't get the Willis' ceiling comparison, 90% of QB play is above the neck, Willis light years away from Kenny in that regard and relies solely on athletic ability. What are the chances he becomes a full field reading precision QB? Without that, his ceiling is Kordell Stewart.
      I am not saying Willis is a sure thing by any means. I'm saying he has a Lamar Jackson ceiling. Everyone here knows how much I loved Lamar Jackson before the draft. I see similar traits but I do not believe Willis is that same guy. But, maybe he can become him with time. But Willis is 2-3 years away from that. The Steelers played it safe with Pickett. To compete in the AFC North you need either an elite pocket QB or a guy who can throw and move chains with his legs. We have three elite QBs in the AFC North. Is Pickett the answer? No I don't think so. I haven't wanted to be more wrong in my whole life.
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      • whisper
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        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #4
        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
        Don't get the Willis' ceiling comparison, 90% of QB play is above the neck, Willis light years away from Kenny in that regard and relies solely on athletic ability. What are the chances he becomes a full field reading precision QB? Without that, his ceiling is Kordell Stewart.
        The funny thing is, though, do you think Ben was a full-field reading QB? I don't, not most of the time, any ways. But I think Willis is really not a full-field reading QB to a high degree. I've seen Pickett definitely read the entire field and make the right read, whether or not he can do that in the NFL, with enough zip on the ball, is yet to be seen.

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        • Shawn
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          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          Originally posted by whisper
          The funny thing is, though, do you think Ben was a full-field reading QB? I don't, not most of the time, any ways. But I think Willis is really not a full-field reading QB to a high degree. I've seen Pickett definitely read the entire field and make the right read, whether or not he can do that in the NFL, with enough zip on the ball, is yet to be seen.
          That's actually a pretty good analysis. The best thing I like about Pickett is the way he sees the field. He can be taught the other things. So, I don't rule out the possibility of Pickett becoming elite. He needs development. His mechanics are sloppy at best. No way he gets away with those throws at the NFL level. No way.
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
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            #6
            Originally posted by Shawn
            That's actually a pretty good analysis. The best thing I like about Pickett is the way he sees the field. He can be taught the other things. So, I don't rule out the possibility of Pickett becoming elite. He needs development. His mechanics are sloppy at best. No way he gets away with those throws at the NFL level. No way.
            He will get away with some of those throws just like Burrow and Mahommes gets away with them.

            My confidence in Pickett is the same as your confidence in assessing Buckeyes. When you watch 99% of the games its different than watching clips or film.

            What I saw in Pickett is a kid who always approached the game like it was winnable regardless of the score.
            Last edited by feltdizz; 05-01-2022, 08:57 PM.
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            • Northern_Blitz
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              • Dec 2008
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              #7
              I hope he becomes great. And if he doesn't, I hope we can tell early.

              I like that everyone says he makes great reads and accurate throws.

              Seems to me like thats something you need at the NFL level.

              Fingers and toes crossed.

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              • Shawn
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                • Mar 2008
                • 15131

                #8
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                He will get away with some of those throws just like Burrow and Mahommes gets away with them.
                Pickett isn't a Burrows or Mahomes. His ceiling is Jimmy G maybe more if they can develop him. His footwork is terrible, his mechanics subpar. He's a second round talent at best. Dear goodness I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it. I think Pickett was a reach. I pray he is better than what I am seeing. If he is I'll celebrate with you as a fellow Steeler brother. But, trust me he isnt a day one starter.
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                • Shawn
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                  • Mar 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  I hope he becomes great. And if he doesn't, I hope we can tell early.

                  I like that everyone says he makes great reads and accurate throws.

                  Seems to me like thats something you need at the NFL level.

                  Fingers and toes crossed.
                  Me too man. I pray that I'm wrong on this one.
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                  • WindyCitySteel
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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Pickett isn't a Burrows or Mahomes. His ceiling is Jimmy G maybe more if they can develop him. His footwork is terrible, his mechanics subpar. He's a second round talent at best. Dear goodness I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it. I think Pickett was a reach. I pray he is better than what I am seeing. If he is I'll celebrate with you as a fellow Steeler brother. But, trust me he isnt a day one starter.
                    That's a bit low. I've seen Ryan, Carr, Dalton, Cousins comparisons. Truth is we don't know and we may as well enjoy the ride.

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                    • Shawn
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                      • Mar 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      That's a bit low. I've seen Ryan, Carr, Dalton, Cousins comparisons. Truth is we don't know and we may as well enjoy the ride.
                      Jimmy G is a low comparison? Tell me from the film, break it down for me why you believe that. You do realize Jimmy G took his team to the SB right? So with your crystal ball tell me why you believe he will be better than that.
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                      • WindyCitySteel
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                        • Nov 2011
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        Jimmy G is a low comparison? Tell me from the film, break it down for me why you believe that. You do realize Jimmy G took his team to the SB right? So with your crystal ball tell me why you believe he will be better than that.
                        Jimmy G's team took him to the Super Bowl. Dude threw for 208 yard in two playoff games combined. Jimmy G is the quintessential paint by numbers system QB game manager, Pickett makes plays in and out of structure.

                        We're both making projections based on our opinions, what makes your crystal ball better?

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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Pickett isn't a Burrows or Mahomes. His ceiling is Jimmy G maybe more if they can develop him. His footwork is terrible, his mechanics subpar. He's a second round talent at best. Dear goodness I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it. I think Pickett was a reach. I pray he is better than what I am seeing. If he is I'll celebrate with you as a fellow Steeler brother. But, trust me he isnt a day one starter.
                          I didn’t say he was either of those guys. Pickett is going to make mistakes.. all QB’s do but you make it sound like he can’t make any throws like Burrow or Mahommes because you watched a little tape earlier today?

                          lmao..

                          and Mahommes wasn’t a day 1 starter either. But the point is Pickett has the arm and thought process to make throws that aren’t mechanically correct but the results are legit.
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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            Jimmy G is a low comparison? Tell me from the film, break it down for me why you believe that. You do realize Jimmy G took his team to the SB right? So with your crystal ball tell me why you believe he will be better than that.
                            Jimmy G didn’t take teams to SB’s. Teams took Jimmy to a SB. His arm and decision making were terrible last year.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                              That's a bit low. I've seen Ryan, Carr, Dalton, Cousins comparisons. Truth is we don't know and we may as well enjoy the ride.
                              its so lazy to call Pickett a clone of a QB but its what people do to try and cap players abilities.

                              Pickett is going to show and prove. There will be growing pains.. but he is going to show these doubters he is NFL ready right now.
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