Dizz, please convine me Pickett ain't a Trubisky clone

[Captain Lemming]

You know I tend glass half full. I wanna like Pickett. I really do. And I think he may well be the most ready guy.

But what I see is a Trubisky clone... almost shockingly similar.

Mobile, no cannon, ceiling of "good" not great.

What does this kid bring that is different than what we have?

[Captain Lemming]

You know I tend glass half full. I wanna like Pickett. I really do. And I think he may well be the most ready guy.

But what I see is a Trubisky clone... almost shockingly similar.

Mobile, no cannon, ceiling of "good" not great.

What does this kid bring that is different than what we have?

I wonder if the strategy is to go all in on the rookie QB deal advantage. Build a beastly team around a good not great QB on the cheap.

MT is only signed for 2 years. If he is who we hope he is, he gets real money after that, which won't be elite dough but much more than the current deal.

The biggest benefit I see is of Pickett is more seasons of mini Mitch on his rookie deal.

I don't hate the strategy. In a year the entire division will be strapped by QB money at which point we should be able to surround the kid with crazy talent and a beastly defense.

[WindyCitySteel]

Not a Pitt fan, but better accuracy, ability to scan the field, playing in a pro-style system, throwing on the run, and not melting in the clutch are obvious differences.

[Captain Lemming]

Not a Pitt fan, but better accuracy, ability to scan the field, playing in a pro-style system, throwing on the run, and not melting in the clutch are obvious differences.

Here is a scouting report on MT. If you change the name save for the "plus arm" advantage that you see with MT you could literally not tell the difference.

Remember Trubisky threw for 69 percent (versus 67) his last year of college.

People forget he was the second pick for a reason.

There are a lot of strengths to Trubisky's game as he has a good skill set for the NFL. The No. 1 attribute for any successful quarterback in the NFL is accuracy, which is a strength for Trubisky. He has good ball placement, is able to beat tight coverage by firing the ball precisely into tight windows, and throws his receivers open. Trubisky throws a very catchable ball, and it is rare to see him miss by being too high or too low. His deep ball accuracy could stand to improve some, but that could come with more experience. Overall, his accuracy is impressive and leads one to think that he has a chance to be make it as a NFL quarterback.

Aside from his accuracy, Trubisky has other good traits. He flashes field vision to move his eyes through progressions. He can have good pocket presence and works with an internal clock that feels the rush. Trubisky is a good athlete with the mobility to scramble and pick up yards on the ground. He won't be a running quarterback in the NFL, but he has enough mobility to help him extend plays and pick up some first downs on the ground. Trubisky has a plus arm with consistent mechanics, too. He also showed the intangibles to push his team to wins late in games in close contests at times.

Pickett DID play in a pro style system true. But I don't see much difference at all.

[WindyCitySteel]

Well, that profile is the exact opposite of what Trubisky turned out to be, which is what I'm comparing KP to.

[feltdizz]

You know I tend glass half full. I wanna like Pickett. I really do. And I think he may well be the most ready guy.

But what I see is a Trubisky clone... almost shockingly similar.

Mobile, no cannon, ceiling of "good" not great.

What does this kid bring that is different than what we have?

A clone? No way.

Mitch is a stiff compared to Pickett when it comes to throwing on the run.

Remember Mitch only started one year because he couldn’t beat out the guy in front of him.

Pickett makes decisions much quicker and pushes the ball downfield with better accuracy.. especially in crunch time.

[feltdizz]

I wonder if the strategy is to go all in on the rookie QB deal advantage. Build a beastly team around a good not great QB on the cheap.

MT is only signed for 2 years. If he is who we hope he is, he gets real money after that, which won't be elite dough but much more than the current deal.

The biggest benefit I see is of Pickett is more seasons of mini Mitch on his rookie deal.

I don't hate the strategy. In a year the entire division will be strapped by QB money at which point we should be able to surround the kid with crazy talent and a beastly defense.

Mitch isn’t getting real money. If he is who we hope he is its slightly better than Mason Rudolph.

Mitch isn’t some HOFer who just happened to go to the wrong franchise.

He was a one year starter who shot up the board because scouts were still in love with the idea of Mitch. He wasn’t anything special in college he just got lucky the Bears fell for the hype.

I watched both in college. More Pickett than Mitch but still watched enough of Mitch to know it was a mistake to move up for him.

Hell, before Pickett I was also hoping Mitch would be the answer or a good stop gap but I also cautioned people that Mason could beat him out because most fans were in love with the idea of Mitch and not playing past year made him into an unknown where you could envision the best.. and not his worst.

A QB who doesn’t play benefits because you can’t critique him. Its like how people said Duck could be the answer because he wasn’t Mason. 2 games oater reality sets in. Maybe he corrected all his warts but I think once we see Mitch we will go… “oh yeah, that’s why he was a cheap backup”

[feltdizz]

Well, that profile is the exact opposite of what Trubisky turned out to be, which is what I'm comparing KP to.

lmao.. yeah, people are still using MT’s draft description like he didn’t have 4 years to prove it was correct.

[Captain Lemming]

Mitch isn’t some HOFer who just happened to go to the wrong franchise.

Oh how wrong you are.
During his entire NFL career as a non-Bear he is a 75 percent passer.

[Sager]

Way I see it is, if you had to flip a coin to determine if either Mitch or Kenny will pan out in the NFL, then it's nice to have the opportunity to flip that coin again if the first flip is wrong.

And as far as Kenny versus the other draft QBs, I guess they feel that you only have to flip the coin correctly once for Kenny to pan out (high floor), whereas you need to flip the coin correctly 3 or 4 times to judge the likelihood of Willis or Ridder panning out.

[Captain Lemming]

Oh how wrong you are.
During his entire NFL career as a non-Bear he is a 75 percent passer.

Seriously, I don't think he is a great QB. But I don't discount the likelihood he was mishandled by the Bears. Justin Fields isn't setting the world on fire either.

I think MT can definitely be a better QB than he was with the Bears

[Captain Lemming]

Way I see it is, if you had to flip a coin to determine if either Mitch or Kenny will pan out in the NFL, then it's nice to have the opportunity to flip that coin again if the first flip is wrong.

And as far as Kenny versus the other draft QBs, I guess they feel that you only have to flip the coin correctly once for Kenny to pan out (high floor), whereas you need to flip the coin correctly 3 or 4 times to judge the likelihood of Willis or Ridder panning out.

My thoughts have nothing to do with other QBs in this draft.

I wanted to get another piece and roll with Trubisky. If he is trash we draft higher next season. But we don't know what we have with him based on college or the Bears in my view.

[Northern_Blitz]

I wonder if the strategy is to go all in on the rookie QB deal advantage. Build a beastly team around a good not great QB on the cheap.

MT is only signed for 2 years. If he is who we hope he is, he gets real money after that, which won't be elite dough but much more than the current deal.

The biggest benefit I see is of Pickett is more seasons of mini Mitch on his rookie deal.

I don't hate the strategy. In a year the entire division will be strapped by QB money at which point we should be able to surround the kid with crazy talent and a beastly defense.

I was kind of thinking about this.

If they want to make use of the rookie deal now, you take the most pro-ready guy instead of waiting for a year or two to hopefully get a starter and not a bust.

I think more and more teams will start selling QBs on (or right before) their second contracts. So if he doesn't work out, there will probably be other Ok guys to pick up.

[Northern_Blitz]

Maybe the point is that Mitch isn't a mystery box any more? He got a shot and didn't work out (at least not yet).

That doesn't mean that another mystery box with the same wrapping won't work out.

I think QB's are the NFL equivalent of goalies in hockey. No one has any real clue when scouting them.

[Captain Lemming]

I was kind of thinking about this.

If they want to make use of the rookie deal now, you take the most pro-ready guy instead of waiting for a year or two to hopefully get a starter and not a bust.

I think more and more teams will start selling QBs on (or right before) their second contracts. So if he doesn't work out, there will probably be other Ok guys to pick up.

Yes, if THIS is the angle, I absolutely get the pick.

Kirk Cousins is proof that kinda good can get you paid nicely. I see THAT as these guys ceiling.

2 seasons with MT versus 4 or 5 with the kid BEFORE that happens?

Cheap QB with plenty of money to spend on building an ELITE defense, young cheap offensive talent?

Soon every team in the division bleeds talent for paying a QB.

We can actually make this work, despite the 4th best QB.