Mitch or.....

[Oviedo]

I love the Trubisky signing

However, the Brown's have destroyed their relationship with Mayfield

Mitch or Baker?

I take Mitch because I think his best is ahead of him

[feltdizz]

We know Baker isn’t getting any better

Mitch at least gives us hope that it was the Bears and not him. Plus Baker is tiny with a weak arm.

[Buzz]

Between the two, take Mitch and don't look back

[Chucktownsteeler]

Mitch every time.....

[SteelerOfDeVille]

We know Baker isn’t getting any better

Mitch at least gives us hope that it was the Bears and not him. Plus Baker is tiny with a weak arm.

This... ALL of this

[hawaiiansteel]

the drafting of Baker Mayfield has set the Browns franchise back 5 years.

[Chucktownsteeler]

the drafting of Baker Mayfield has set the Browns franchise back 5 years.

And then some.....

[feltdizz]

the drafting of Baker Mayfield has set the Browns franchise back 5 years.

and its time based!!!

[WindyCitySteel]

the drafting of Baker Mayfield has set the Browns franchise back 5 years.

How so? They won one game over the course of two seasons before he got there.

[WindyCitySteel]

Baker played injured last year. Healthy, he's a better QB than Trubisky.

[SS Laser]

Baker played injured last year. Healthy, he's a better QB than Trubisky.

That depends on how you value stats and metrics. Herd did a comparison linked in at least one if not two threads here. And Trubisky is comparable by stats the same or a tad a head of Baker and Carr so far. I want to wait and see it with my own eyes on sundays in a Steelers uni before I deem him worse then Baker. Also seen enough of Baker that I would not want him. Freaking OBJ and Landry as WR’s? 2 really good RB’s! Etc on a good team. And yes he was hurt. So say that and get healthy not play worse.

[WindyCitySteel]

We know Baker isn’t getting any better

Mitch at least gives us hope that it was the Bears and not him. Plus Baker is tiny with a weak arm.

Baker's got a better arm than Trubisky. Do you guys even watch football?

[WindyCitySteel]

That depends on how you value stats and metrics. Herd did a comparison linked in at least one if not two threads here. And Trubisky is comparable by stats the same or a tad a head of Baker and Carr so far. I want to wait and see it with my own eyes on sundays in a Steelers uni before I deem him worse then Baker. Also seen enough of Baker that I would not want him. Freaking OBJ and Landry as WR’s? 2 really good RB’s! Etc on a good team. And yes he was hurt. So say that and get healthy not play worse.

In Trubisky's "good" year, he was the 30th ranked QB in PFF. I value their grading much more than raw stats.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Stats are good to a certain point. There are just too many variables for them to be the end-all, be-all.

[whisper]

We know Baker isn’t getting any better

Mitch at least gives us hope that it was the Bears and not him. Plus Baker is tiny with a weak arm.

You mean Baker won't improve over the version with a busted shoulder? Hard to imagine that.