OT: Super Bowl coaching

[Northern_Blitz]

we will see if he learns from those lapses.

we ctainly haven't seen the improvement here from 14-15 years ago

This is certainly the sad part. And I think that all of us expected to get more wins in the playoffs after the GB SB. And part of that is on Tomlin. And part of that is on Ben, and on everyone else who has been involved in the organization. And part of it is just the reality of sports and playing in a league with a salary cap.

It will be interesting to see how McVay fares from here on out.

The chalk says to bet against him getting back to the SB. What happens with Stafford next year as he enters the last year of his contract? Does this D start to age out (like ours did)? Can they prolong their window after trading so much draft capital?

Who knows?

What he's done is impressive either way.

[Northern_Blitz]

And the circular argument starts over

I agree that it is the problem with circles.

The similarities are pretty eerie though.

[crushedspirit]

I agree that he is a good coach.

I was less sure the first time because it was a single good season with a highly drafted QB (who didn't look great or terrible at the time), and a great defense. I think that's the recipe for good success in the NFL these days.

But I'm a believer that McVay's is a good coach this year (even if they didn't win the SB).

He has accomplished a lot in a short time.

I think that he'll probably still be a good coach if this is short lived success because of how they build their team (acquire good players at the expense of draft picks). Because winning this much in a short period of time is always going to be hard in the NFL.

It's going to be tricky to maintain what he has now with 7 guys gobbling up about 70% of cap space coming up. I know he has his critics, but the record speaks for itself, warts and all. An average coach doesn't go to a SB with Jared Goff in tow, no matter what else the team had around him. He squeezed water from a rock with that turd.

[feltdizz]

It's going to be tricky to maintain what he has now with 7 guys gobbling up about 70% of cap space coming up. I know he has his critics, but the record speaks for itself, warts and all. An average coach doesn't go to a SB with Jared Goff in tow, no matter what else the team had around him. He squeezed water from a rock with that turd.

yeah.. this isn’t true. Remember, the Rams needed the refs to blow an easy PI vs the Saints to reach that first SB.

One can wonder if the Saints didn’t have bountygate do they get that call?

Regardless, I think Jimmy G and Goff
are basically the same QB. You can get to a SB with them if you take the ball out of their hands and don’t need them to win the game for you.

[NJ-STEELER]

yeah.. this isn’t true. Remember, the Rams needed the refs to blow an easy PI vs the Saints to reach that first SB.

One can wonder if the Saints didn’t have bountygate do they get that call?

Regardless, I think Jimmy G and Goff
are basically the same QB. You can get to a SB with them if you take the ball out of their hands and don’t need them to win the game for you.

didn't the saints go ahead by 3 with under 2 minutes left?

pretend thats big ben instead of brees and blame the qb for

1. not throwing past the sticks.
2. not throwing it sooner to him
3. throwing a sure INT if the DB is looking at the ball. probable pick 6 the other way if he does

4. getting the ball first in OT and throwing a pick

[crushedspirit]

yeah.. this isn’t true. Remember, the Rams needed the refs to blow an easy PI vs the Saints to reach that first SB.

One can wonder if the Saints didn’t have bountygate do they get that call?

Regardless, I think Jimmy G and Goff
are basically the same QB. You can get to a SB with them if you take the ball out of their hands and don’t need them to win the game for you.

The call was missed, but one can point out more than just one team getting a helping hand come playoff time over the years.

As is, any coach who can go to a SB with a guy like Jimmy G, Goff, Tannehill, Cousins, etc, has done a good job of covering up their glaring weakness, and deserves credit for it.

[NJ-STEELER]

and then there's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJdvpsV9Q0&t=36s

possible tipped ball and hands to the face on rams DL which went uncalled

[Northern_Blitz]

and then there's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJdvpsV9Q0&t=36s

possible tipped ball and hands to the face on rams DL which went uncalled

Also looks like helmet to helmet on the WR.

Probably every game has moments like this. It's just a matter of when they happen that makes them seem more / less critical.

That's sports. The refs are human too.

[feltdizz]

Also looks like helmet to helmet on the WR.

Probably every game has moments like this. It's just a matter of when they happen that makes them seem more / less critical.

That's sports. The refs are human too.

true but the missed PI call was one that everyone saw in real time and 100% agree they blew that call.

I’m not a Saints fan so its whatever just pointing out that the Rams got a huge break in getting to their first one with Goff.

[NJ-STEELER]

Also looks like helmet to helmet on the WR.

Probably every game has moments like this. It's just a matter of when they happen that makes them seem more / less critical.

That's sports. The refs are human too.

agreed, there are calls/plays that go both ways. we certainly defended the SB XL victory with things we found seattle guilty/not guilty of.

seemed like someone was trying to dismiss mcvay's accomplishments with said calls

[feltdizz]

I always think its easier to admit bad calls sometimes go our way. Makes
it much easier to have these types of conversations than to try to act like we never get calls or all the calls are against us.

[Northern_Blitz]

agreed, there are calls/plays that go both ways. we certainly defended the SB XL victory with things we found seattle guilty/not guilty of.

seemed like someone was trying to dismiss mcvay's accomplishments with said calls

I've done that in the past with this game. Especially when it seemed like that was more of a small sample size of success.

I still think that the Saints should have won that game.

But even if McV's Rams got eliminated in the NFCC in that season, his accomplishments to date are still impressive. That wasn't as true at the time of that game IMO.

[flippy]

I always think its easier to admit bad calls sometimes go our way. Makes
it much easier to have these types of conversations than to try to act like we never get calls or all the calls are against us.

Bad calls always go against us and help our opponents. Not sure what gibberish you’re spewing

[whisper]

Maybe it was the coaching but I felt like the game was a bit boring. A few nice plays but overall I was a bit unimpressed.

Maybe its because this years playoffs were so good?

I think, in general, it was a good SB. But the playoffs were extra, extra good this year, soooo....by comparison...

[flippy]

I think, in general, it was a good SB. But the playoffs were extra, extra good this year, soooo....by comparison...

Looking back, Buffalo/KC, KC/Cincy, and Rams/Tampa were some really good games and I tend to have a hard time getting invested in who wins once the Steelers are out.

The SuperBowl was a let down. But I also wonder if the finish would have been better if Burrow and Stafford didn’t take some pretty bad shots to their knee/ankle in the 2nd half.

Gotta give both of those guys credit for fighting thru what looked like some potentially bad injuries.