Why the Steelers should pass on a QB and trot out Mason Rudolph in the 2022 season

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  • brothervad
    Pro Bowler
    • Dec 2008
    • 1914

    Why the Steelers should pass on a QB and trot out Mason Rudolph in the 2022 season

    This is going to be the age old question - to rebuild or not to rebuild (regardless of what you say to the public via the media). Personally, I agree with this...I think you can rebuild quickly in this day and age especially with your getting cap space available now and next year.

    I think the Steelers are in a far better position than the current AFC crown holder was (2 wins in 2019, 4 wins in 2020). Albeit the most important part...a franchise QB. I think talk of trading for Rodgers, Garopolo, or signing Mariota makes little sense. I fear that signing a Mariota...ties the Steelers to the "we are close" just a bit more and we will challenge.
    Just remember in that 10 year "hell period" of 83-92 the Steelers won their division 30% of the time.


    I do have questions on whether that "Franchise QB" is in this year's draft. So focus on the rest of the infrastructure and look to 2023 as a find the QB. It may turn out that having a "losing season" as much to the chagrin of the Tomlin haters and perhaps Tomlin himself (and the vaunted losing season record).

    I am sure this will be a split decision...I guess the nightmare scenario is somehow Rudolph...defies expectations and is able to win enough games (along with a stellar comeback of a shutdown D) to get the vaunted 6th/7th seed. And delays the process in the minds of the brain trust.


    Why the Steelers should pass on a QB and trot out Mason Rudolph in the 2022 season


    Ben Roethlisberger was the reason the Steelers won as many games as they did in 2021. Take him out of the equation, insert Mason Rudolph, and theyÂ’re easily a sub-.500 team.

    Rudolph will get into the nitty-gritty of his first offseason as QB1 for the Pittsburgh Steelers in just a few short months. He’ll get first-team reps, he’ll be “the man,” he’ll be the focus of the Steelers offense, he’ll be the
    first guy not named Ben Roethlisberger (https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/pittsburgh-steelers-retirement-nfl-announcement/) at the helm of the team in nearly two decades.

    But even a full offseason as QB1 won’t magically make Rudolph good enough to be the face of Pittsburgh’s franchise. He just isn’t that type of quarterback. Rudolph doesn’t have that “it” factor. If he had, we would’ve seen a glimpse of what could be in his 10 career starts.

    Given what Rudolph has shown in those starts, he wonÂ’t find success in 2022. HeÂ’ll fold under the pressure alone. But trot him onto the field and see what happens. If he flounders, so be it. Send Dwayne Haskins out there.

    Times have changed — quickly. The Steelers won’t be ready to compete with the likes of the Bengals (or even the Ravens) in 2022. With all of the pieces the Steelers need, it will take patience.

    ThereÂ’s no harm in having a subpar season other than a bruised ego. A season with eight or fewer wins will get you in the top 15 of the NFL draft. Less than that, even better. ItÂ’s not what Pittsburgh wants; itÂ’s not what it aims for. But if itÂ’s what you get, it only means a higher draft pick and (hopefully) greener pastures in 2023.

    These nine-win seasons only get you in the 20s — that’s not where the future is and certainly not a shot at a franchise quarterback.


    Throw caution to the wind.
  • Chucktownsteeler
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6849

    #2
    I believe in giving MR and Haskins a chance as well. Let MR work with the 1st string in camp and see what he brings to the table. I just have a feeling he may surprise us a little. Give Haskins a little chain as well. One or both may surprise us. I wouldn't go QB in the first but tother think we should.

    I would consider a QB in the 2nd round if the right one is there. I am still curious on what the week brings for Carson Strong. His arm has never been in doubt and his mobility has been hampered a bit due to his knee. When he recovers 100% he could be the complete package. He reminds me of a boom or bust pick.

    Round 2 seems just about right for the gamble on Strong. Time will tell.
    Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

    I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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    • Northern_Blitz
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 24373

      #3
      I agree that we shouldn't be in a rush to pick a QB just to pick a QB.

      If there is someone we really like, pick him.

      But if it's a maybe...it should be a no.

      It's not a good QB class by most accounts.

      Our draft pick isn't all that high.

      I think it should be higher next year...but it's weird, because I also think that the offense might be better (at least by PPG). I just think we had a lot of things break right this year. And part of that was certainly Ben seeming to will us to some close wins. But if we can play offense in the first 3 quarters, maybe we would be able to win some other games without needing dramatic 4th Qs?

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      • The Man of Steel
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2009
        • 2236

        #4
        Trotting out Mason Rudolph as the starter next season is probably gonna feel like we’re reliving the Cliff Stoudt era which I think only lasted one season before first round bust Mark Malone took over.
        Obviously the standard is the standard.

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        • Chucktownsteeler
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6849

          #5
          Originally posted by The Man of Steel
          Trotting out Mason Rudolph as the starter next season is probably gonna feel like we’re reliving the Cliff Stoudt era which I think only lasted one season before first round bust Mark Malone took over.
          Ouch, that's not encouraging.

          Although Mark Malone was a heck of an athlete who knows how he would have panned out without the serious knee injury. He had the best "naked bootleg" of any QB I have ever seen.
          Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

          I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            #6
            Originally posted by The Man of Steel
            Trotting out Mason Rudolph as the starter next season is probably gonna feel like we’re reliving the Cliff Stoudt era which I think only lasted one season before first round bust Mark Malone took over.
            That's okay. Most of the young fans never lived through the post glory years teams. It will be a chance for them to get a taste of the disgusting medicine we had to swallow for about 25 years until Ben came along.
            http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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            • whisper
              Legend
              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #7
              Originally posted by brothervad
              This is going to be the age old question - to rebuild or not to rebuild (regardless of what you say to the public via the media). Personally, I agree with this...I think you can rebuild quickly in this day and age especially with your getting cap space available now and next year.

              I think the Steelers are in a far better position than the current AFC crown holder was (2 wins in 2019, 4 wins in 2020). Albeit the most important part...a franchise QB. I think talk of trading for Rodgers, Garopolo, or signing Mariota makes little sense. I fear that signing a Mariota...ties the Steelers to the "we are close" just a bit more and we will challenge.
              Just remember in that 10 year "hell period" of 83-92 the Steelers won their division 30% of the time.


              I do have questions on whether that "Franchise QB" is in this year's draft. So focus on the rest of the infrastructure and look to 2023 as a find the QB. It may turn out that having a "losing season" as much to the chagrin of the Tomlin haters and perhaps Tomlin himself (and the vaunted losing season record).

              I am sure this will be a split decision...I guess the nightmare scenario is somehow Rudolph...defies expectations and is able to win enough games (along with a stellar comeback of a shutdown D) to get the vaunted 6th/7th seed. And delays the process in the minds of the brain trust.


              Why the Steelers should pass on a QB and trot out Mason Rudolph in the 2022 season


              Ben Roethlisberger was the reason the Steelers won as many games as they did in 2021. Take him out of the equation, insert Mason Rudolph, and theyÂ’re easily a sub-.500 team.

              Rudolph will get into the nitty-gritty of his first offseason as QB1 for the Pittsburgh Steelers in just a few short months. He’ll get first-team reps, he’ll be “the man,” he’ll be the focus of the Steelers offense, he’ll be the
              first guy not named Ben Roethlisberger (https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/pittsburgh-steelers-retirement-nfl-announcement/) at the helm of the team in nearly two decades.

              But even a full offseason as QB1 won’t magically make Rudolph good enough to be the face of Pittsburgh’s franchise. He just isn’t that type of quarterback. Rudolph doesn’t have that “it” factor. If he had, we would’ve seen a glimpse of what could be in his 10 career starts.

              Given what Rudolph has shown in those starts, he wonÂ’t find success in 2022. HeÂ’ll fold under the pressure alone. But trot him onto the field and see what happens. If he flounders, so be it. Send Dwayne Haskins out there.

              Times have changed — quickly. The Steelers won’t be ready to compete with the likes of the Bengals (or even the Ravens) in 2022. With all of the pieces the Steelers need, it will take patience.

              ThereÂ’s no harm in having a subpar season other than a bruised ego. A season with eight or fewer wins will get you in the top 15 of the NFL draft. Less than that, even better. ItÂ’s not what Pittsburgh wants; itÂ’s not what it aims for. But if itÂ’s what you get, it only means a higher draft pick and (hopefully) greener pastures in 2023.

              These nine-win seasons only get you in the 20s — that’s not where the future is and certainly not a shot at a franchise quarterback.


              Throw caution to the wind.
              Wait a minute. I'm not so sure Mason would have automatically lost more games than Ben this season. Has this writer seen Ben's play this season? He was horrible, among the worst QB play in the NFL. I'm not going to make the assumption that Ben won more games than Mason would have. After all, like Rooney says, "Mason has a winning record in this league."

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              • Chucktownsteeler
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6849

                #8
                Mason Rudolph is the Rodney Dangerfield of NFL QBs.
                Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                • Eich
                  Legend
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 7044

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                  Mason Rudolph is the Rodney Dangerfield of NFL QBs.
                  He's had 10 starts to earn a little respect. I didn't see it. I get when people say a QB deserves a full camp to see what we have but in this case, we've seen 10 starts. I think he's displayed his skill set. I just don't see him competing with Burrow, Jackson and even whoever the Clowns trot out next season (rumored to be potentially Kirk Cousins).

                  Would love to be wrong. He seems like a bright kid.

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                  • Buzz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 8379

                    #10
                    Originally posted by whisper
                    Wait a minute. I'm not so sure Mason would have automatically lost more games than Ben this season. Has this writer seen Ben's play this season? He was horrible, among the worst QB play in the NFL. I'm not going to make the assumption that Ben won more games than Mason would have. After all, like Rooney says, "Mason has a winning record in this league."
                    Except Ben was good in the 4th quarter. Not sure Mason could have pulled out many of those close games.

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                    • Buzz
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 8379

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eich
                      He's had 10 starts to earn a little respect. I didn't see it. I get when people say a QB deserves a full camp to see what we have but in this case, we've seen 10 starts. I think he's displayed his skill set. I just don't see him competing with Burrow, Jackson and even whoever the Clowns trot out next season (rumored to be potentially Kirk Cousins).

                      Would love to be wrong. He seems like a bright kid.
                      But ... but ... Steelers had a first round grade on him.

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                      • whisper
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 9423

                        #12
                        Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        That's okay. Most of the young fans never lived through the post glory years teams. It will be a chance for them to get a taste of the disgusting medicine we had to swallow for about 25 years until Ben came along.
                        It was more like 20 (Bradshaw retired in '83, Ben Started in 2001). But it felt longer. A lot of that span was due to the Rooneys' stubbornness in trying to prove you didn't need a super high draft pick to land a QB that could take you all the way, even though the one who did get them there (Bradshaw) was taken 1st overall. If they fall back into that mode, it could be another long 20 years, dealing with the likes of Stoudt, Malone, Brister, Tomczak, Kordell, Franken-graham.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          #13
                          Originally posted by whisper
                          It was more like 20 (Bradshaw retired in '83, Ben Started in 2001). But it felt longer. A lot of that span was due to the Rooneys' stubbornness in trying to prove you didn't need a super high draft pick to land a QB that could take you all the way.
                          Rooneys' or Cowher's?

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                          • Chucktownsteeler
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 6849

                            #14
                            Originally posted by whisper
                            It was more like 20 (Bradshaw retired in '83, Ben Started in 2001). But it felt longer. A lot of that span was due to the Rooneys' stubbornness in trying to prove you didn't need a super high draft pick to land a QB that could take you all the way, even though the one who did get them there (Bradshaw) was taken 1st overall. If they fall back into that mode, it could be another long 20 years, dealing with the likes of Stoudt, Malone, Brister, Tomczak, Kordell, Franken-graham.
                            Ben was drafted in the 1st round of the 2004 draft.

                            Ben Roethlisberger draft: When was Big Ben drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers? (bolavip.com) (https://bolavip.com/en/nfl/ben-roethlisberger-draft-when-was-big-ben-drafted-by-the-pittsburgh-steelers-20220115-0009.html)
                            Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

                            I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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                            • whisper
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 9423

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Rooneys' or Cowher's?
                              Yea, I thought about that as I wrote it: Cowher had the same propensity, or was that a reflection of the team? Not sure. Word is, as you know, that Rooney over-rode Cowher to take Ben; Bill wanted to take an OLmen who went to Philly instead.

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