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  • whisper
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    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    #16
    Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
    Key word being “may”.

    This might be click bait.
    Word today is Rooney is looking at DC for NO. Austin not a shoe in?

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    • whisper
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      • Mar 2020
      • 9423

      #17
      Originally posted by Starlifter
      The further we get away from him, the more i'm convinced the success of the Steelers as a franchise was mostly the result of one man. Dan Rooney. Art II is living off that reputation for the 'Steeler Way' - but as the years pass by, I'm not confident he is a fraction of the owner/leader his father was.
      Unfortunately, you may be correct.

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      • pittpete
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        • Aug 2008
        • 6825

        #18
        Weii Rooney wanted us to improve our run game
        Guess what, it still at the bottom
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        • whisper
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          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          #19
          Originally posted by pittpete
          Weii Rooney wanted us to improve our run game
          Guess what, it still at the bottom
          Yea, and not just this year; it's been near the bottom for years and Art has said it needs improved for years. So who's failing is that?

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #20
            Originally posted by whisper
            He has the right to maker any decision he wants, as owner. But, if so, don't hide behind the concept of letting the HC make all the decisions if he is not. Be upfront and truthful about it. Jerry Jones, as owner and GM makes all these decisions, but he is upfront about it. I thought the way they handles Arians, LeBeau and Haley were sloppy and dishonest. They tried to pin the moves on Tomlin but it was obvious he didn't make those calls.
            If Rooney admitted all these things would you feel differently about Tomlin?

            I hear the same thing in Carolina with Tepper. I have no idea why.
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            • Buzz
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              • Dec 2017
              • 8379

              #21
              Originally posted by whisper
              He has the right to maker any decision he wants, as owner. But, if so, don't hide behind the concept of letting the HC make all the decisions if he is not. Be upfront and truthful about it. Jerry Jones, as owner and GM makes all these decisions, but he is upfront about it. I thought the way they handles Arians, LeBeau and Haley were sloppy and dishonest. They tried to pin the moves on Tomlin but it was obvious he didn't make those calls.
              I don't get this ... why is it "obvious" Tomlin didn't make those calls?

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              • Dwinsgames
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                • Aug 2021
                • 426

                #22
                at the end of the day I could never call it interfering ... he is the owner of the team and the team president he has every right ...........

                and if the HC is not doing what he considers best for the organization it is his obligation to right the ship you know the ship he owns !!

                to see it any other way is ridiculous IMO
                @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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                • Oviedo
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                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dwinsgames
                  at the end of the day I could never call it interfering ... he is the owner of the team and the team president he has every right ...........

                  and if the HC is not doing what he considers best for the organization it is his obligation to right the ship you know the ship he owns !!

                  to see it any other way is ridiculous IMO
                  This!!!!

                  The owner is the King and the King rules the realm. If you don't like it find another realm.

                  The reality is that the Rooney's have always appeared to have a collaborative leadership structure. Unfortunately, some fans think it is like an old school model where coaches control players lives and everything about the team. Hasn't been that way for a very long time.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • whisper
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                    • Mar 2020
                    • 9423

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Buzz
                    I don't get this ... why is it "obvious" Tomlin didn't make those calls?
                    On a "Cliff Notes" response, it was due to the statements given and their order. Tomlin gave positive comments towards many of the coordinators right before they "retired." Remember when the team came out and said Arians had retired and he said he never said anything of the sort? Didn't LeBeau's situation have a similar, sloppy departure? After Tomlin gave a ringing endorsement, bother were said to have "retired."

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                    • whatever
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                      • Sep 2019
                      • 5795

                      #25
                      Originally posted by whisper
                      On a "Cliff Notes" response, it was due to the statements given and their order. Tomlin gave positive comments towards many of the coordinators right before they "retired." Remember when the team came out and said Arians had retired and he said he never said anything of the sort? Didn't LeBeau's situation have a similar, sloppy departure? After Tomlin gave a ringing endorsement, bother were said to have "retired."
                      Didn’t Tomlin also make a comment, after the debacle, that he made the decision, not Rooney?
                      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                      • whisper
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                        • Mar 2020
                        • 9423

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        This!!!!

                        The owner is the King and the King rules the realm. If you don't like it find another realm.

                        The reality is that the Rooney's have always appeared to have a collaborative leadership structure. Unfortunately, some fans think it is like an old school model where coaches control players lives and everything about the team. Hasn't been that way for a very long time.
                        Fine, then come out and admit it; don't hide and make there so much obfuscation that no one knows who is making what calls. Man up. You owe it to the fans.

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                        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                          • May 2008
                          • 10281

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dwinsgames
                          at the end of the day I could never call it interfering ... he is the owner of the team and the team president he has every right ...........

                          and if the HC is not doing what he considers best for the organization it is his obligation to right the ship you know the ship he owns !!

                          to see it any other way is ridiculous IMO
                          Usually a HC has the GM to answer to. The GM has the owner to answer to. Many coaching decisions don't need to move all the way upstairs. This year there is a lame duck GM so it makes sense that the owner would get further involved.

                          The reason that we typically don't know which decisions are Rooney's and which are not is because he does not have the ego of Jerry Jones. He can discuss these situations directly with Colbert and Tomlin. He doesn't go in front of the cameras to make sure that the whole world knows that everything runs through him.
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                          • Dwinsgames
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                            • Aug 2021
                            • 426

                            #28
                            Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                            Usually a HC has the GM to answer to. The GM has the owner to answer to. Many coaching decisions don't need to move all the way upstairs. This year there is a lame duck GM so it makes sense that the owner would get further involved.

                            The reason that we typically don't know which decisions are Rooney's and which are not is because he does not have the ego of Jerry Jones. He can discuss these situations directly with Colbert and Tomlin. He doesn't go in front of the cameras to make sure that the whole world knows that everything runs through him.
                            the Steelers operate differently than most ... just like the war room for the draft its an effort of the unit with Rooney having the final voice if need be
                            @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #29
                              Originally posted by whisper
                              Fine, then come out and admit it; don't hide and make there so much obfuscation that no one knows who is making what calls. Man up. You owe it to the fans.
                              Lmao.. and what changes if he pays up and admits he made the final decision?

                              All that will happen is people will spin it into Tomlin being a puppet and not having any power.

                              This witch hunt of who to stone is weird. Tomlin, Rooney, Colbert, etc.. are all in on tne final decisions but Rooney is the owner. The boss. Maybe there are times Tomlin wants to keep a guy but Rooney overrules him. Maybe Rooney is fine with a coach but Tomlin has other ideas.

                              Not sure and not sure why people have to know every detail. It won’t change how people view the franchise, Rooney or Tomlin. Basically its win or whine with most fans who “want answers”

                              Hearing the same thing with the Panthers down here and the reality is until they start
                              winning they “want answers from the owner”

                              Why? I don’t know.. his answers aren’t going to change the record this offseason.
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