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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
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    TJ...just imagine

    Imagine if he didn't miss games with injuries and imagine if he was playing next to Tuitt all season long.

    Where would he be sack total wise??
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  • Flasteel
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4008

    #2
    Maybe we'll get to find that out next year.
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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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      • May 2008
      • 10287

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Where would he be sack total wise??
      Where would the team be win-wise?

      There have been 5 games in which TJ has either not played or played less than 50% of defensive snaps. Steelers record in those games? 0-4-1. 0-5-1 if you go to 55%.

      Throw in Haden who has completely missed 5 games for a record of 1-4.
      Last edited by steeler_fan_in_t.o.; 01-04-2022, 05:45 PM.
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      • Buzz
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        • Dec 2017
        • 8408

        #4
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Imagine if he didn't miss games with injuries and imagine if he was playing next to Tuitt all season long.

        Where would he be sack total wise??
        Who knows? He played next to Tuitt last season ... maybe Tuitt or someone else would have garnered more sacks, maybe TJ's sack total would have been diminished.

        Sack total is a bit of an overrated statistic anyway, IMO. Steelers lead the NFL in sacks this season, but our D has been far from league-leading. One Cleveland drive late in last night's game serves to illustrate this point really well -- we got 3 sacks on Baker during the drive, yet they still ended up going 76 yards in 17 plays and scoring a TD.

        TJ is a mighty impressive player, no doubt, but we need some other pieces in place to have a championship defense. If Cleveland had been smarter, and attacked the interior of our D with their running game, I think we'd have seen, once again, how flawed our defense really is. There's a lot of work to be done. Hopefully, lots of good steps in that direction will take place in the offseason.
        Last edited by Buzz; 01-04-2022, 05:43 PM.

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        • NorthCoast
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          • Sep 2008
          • 26640

          #5
          It would be the ultimate irony to have Watt tie or break the record playing against AV this week. (I know he usually lines up on RT but who knows what they are planning)

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          • WindyCitySteel
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            • Nov 2011
            • 15684

            #6
            Imagine if we kept a legit backup instead of trading him to an AFC competitor.

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            • Captain Lemming
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              • Jun 2008
              • 16063

              #7
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              Imagine if we kept a legit backup instead of trading him to an AFC competitor.
              You mean the guy who has yet to have a solo sack as a Chief?

              I "imagine" what it would be like to have his 1 sack (two HALF SACKS) as a Chief starter on this team?

              I imagine we'd have half the sacks Tuska gave us in the last three games as a BACKUP.
              Last edited by Captain Lemming; 01-05-2022, 11:30 AM.
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              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27568

                #8
                Originally posted by Buzz
                Who knows? He played next to Tuitt last season ... maybe Tuitt or someone else would have garnered more sacks, maybe TJ's sack total would have been diminished.

                Sack total is a bit of an overrated statistic anyway, IMO. Steelers lead the NFL in sacks this season, but our D has been far from league-leading. One Cleveland drive late in last night's game serves to illustrate this point really well -- we got 3 sacks on Baker during the drive, yet they still ended up going 76 yards in 17 plays and scoring a TD.

                TJ is a mighty impressive player, no doubt, but we need some other pieces in place to have a championship defense. If Cleveland had been smarter, and attacked the interior of our D with their running game, I think we'd have seen, once again, how flawed our defense really is. There's a lot of work to be done. Hopefully, lots of good steps in that direction will take place in the offseason.
                Hopefully Watts contract doesn’t compromise our ability to surround him with talent.

                I think we will go DL early next draft.
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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                  You mean the guy who has yet to have a solo sack as a Chief?

                  I "imagine" what it would be like to have his 1 sack (two HALF SACKS) as a Chief starter on this team?

                  I imagine we'd have half the sacks Tuska gave us in the last three games as a BACKUP.
                  Imagine Ingram has TWO SACKS TOTAL between the Steelers and KC on the season. Remember he is a starter on KC. Again 2 sacks on the season.

                  Tuszka has two sacks in 3 weeks sharing backup duties with Taco.
                  Last edited by Captain Lemming; 01-05-2022, 11:34 AM.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Captain Lemming
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    Imagine if we kept a legit backup instead of trading him to an AFC competitor.
                    Imagine he thought he was better than Highsmith who just matched Ingrams SEASON sacks total in one game.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #11
                      Imagine not wanting to give TJ that extension

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                      • WindyCitySteel
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                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15684

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        Imagine Ingram has TWO SACKS TOTAL between the Steelers and KC on the season. Remember he is a starter on KC. Again 2 sacks on the season.

                        Tuszka has two sacks in 3 weeks sharing backup duties with Taco.
                        It's almost as if "sacks" aren't the only metric with which to measure a player.

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