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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 15675

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    Where is he going that he is guaranteed to get a ring? Does he even want to go somewhere else?
    Not guaranteed anywhere, of course, but he's guaranteed to not get one if he stays. Maybe Ingram will coax him after he wins one this year.

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    • feltdizz
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      • May 2008
      • 27482

      #32
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      It's fact, not shade. And if you wish to operate under the assumption that he *was* the best back in the draft, then this season is a perfect example of the value of the position and why you never pick one in the first round, especially one who doesn't have the speed to get to the edge or run farther than 25-30 yards without getting caught.

      The Chiefs rebuilt their OL and ran on the Steelers with two UDFAs at RB in the 2nd half.
      I think the problem is folks really thought we could fix all of our running problems in one draft.

      That was never going to happen.

      and I would love to know how these other rookies RB’s teams records are that make their selection so much better.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • WindyCitySteel
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        • Nov 2011
        • 15675

        #33
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        I think the problem is folks really thought we could fix all of our running problems in one draft.

        That was never going to happen.

        and I would love to know how these other rookies RB’s teams records are that make their selection so much better.
        They're better because they didn't waste draft capital on a fungible, replaceable, unimportant position.

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        • whatever
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          • Sep 2019
          • 5795

          #34
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          I think the problem is folks really thought we could fix all of our running problems in one draft.

          That was never going to happen.

          and I would love to know how these other rookies RB’s teams records are that make their selection so much better.
          You mean the ‘true fans’ that loved those non oline picks the last few years?
          How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27482

            #35
            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
            Not guaranteed anywhere, of course, but he's guaranteed to not get one if he stays. Maybe Ingram will coax him after he wins one this year.
            maybe.. but I do wonder if Ingram feels like his contributions in KC were worthy of a SB ring if KC wins one this year.

            I think most players want to play significant snaps to get their ring, not jump on halfway thru the year and get a ring while having pedestrian stats.

            Not knocking Ingrams contributions but he is averaging like 1 tackle a game.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27482

              #36
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              They're better because they didn't waste draft capital on a fungible, replaceable, unimportant position.
              better at what? ypc?

              I have no idea who half these guys play for which is why I asked.

              Just wondering if these are 10 and 11 win teams or 7 win teams like us. If they are 7 or 8 win teams right now its simply a different way of achieving the same result.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • WindyCitySteel
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                • Nov 2011
                • 15675

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                maybe.. but I do wonder if Ingram feels like his contributions in KC were worthy of a SB ring if KC wins one this year.

                I think most players want to play significant snaps to get their ring, not jump on halfway thru the year and get a ring while having pedestrian stats.

                Not knocking Ingrams contributions but he is averaging like 1 tackle a game.
                Listen to what his coach says about how he allows Jones to play inside. Look at their PPG allowed before and after Ingram, then do the same with the Steelers.

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                • Jooser
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5097

                  #38


                  ahhhhh, next question?
                  ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                  • Jooser
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5097

                    #39


                    pretty sure we need better blocking?
                    ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
                      • 27482

                      #40
                      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                      Listen to what his coach says about how he allows Jones to play inside. Look at their PPG allowed before and after Ingram, then do the same with the Steelers.
                      if they kept GB under 14 with Rodgers I would be impressed. But the backup played that game.

                      Maybe he turns it on in the playoffs but its kinda odd to be the guy who gets credit for someone else making a bunch of plays inside. Right now he is averaging about 1 tackle a game.

                      I wish we kept him for depth because I think he would’ve been much more impactful for us and not just the guy who helps the other guy make all the plays
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • WindyCitySteel
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                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15675

                        #41
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        better at what? ypc?

                        I have no idea who half these guys play for which is why I asked.

                        Just wondering if these are 10 and 11 win teams or 7 win teams like us. If they are 7 or 8 win teams right now its simply a different way of achieving the same result.
                        I meant the teams did a better job filling the position of RB because they didn't spend a first round pick on one.

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                        • Ernie
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                          • Aug 2013
                          • 8470

                          #42
                          Drafting Creed Humphry in the 2nd would have made the Harris pick alot easier to swallow.

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                          • papillon
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ernie
                            Drafting Creed Humphry in the 2nd would have made the Harris pick alot easier to swallow.
                            Probably better for Harris' health as well.

                            Pappy
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                            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                            • NorthCoast
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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26626

                              #44
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              maybe.. but I do wonder if Ingram feels like his contributions in KC were worthy of a SB ring if KC wins one this year.

                              I think most players want to play significant snaps to get their ring, not jump on halfway thru the year and get a ring while having pedestrian stats.

                              Not knocking Ingrams contributions but he is averaging like 1 tackle a game.
                              A ring was secondary to Ingram's move. He wants another bag before he runs out of time. If he doesn't get the PT, he doesn't get the $$$ next season.

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                              • feltdizz
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                                • May 2008
                                • 27482

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                A ring was secondary to Ingram's move. He wants another bag before he runs out of time. If he doesn't get the PT, he doesn't get the $$$ next season.
                                yeah, I think he would’ve signed anywhere but it worked out for him to go to KC.

                                I wonder if he is truly happy since he still isn’t getting a ton of snaps.
                                Steelers 27
                                Rats 16

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