Has Tomlin lost this team?

[feltdizz]

No one is saying chuck the ball 50 yards downfield every play.
But, i'm also saying that if we get to halftime and Ben has thrown 16 passes, but 13 of them were caught within 3 yards of the LOS, we're likely be down big.

Najee struggles to find room because whether run or pass, all plays are short of where the LB line up - so the defense never has to "loosen up" in the event there may be a pass.

So, I'm asking for an occasional crossing route that might make LB back up. Or yes, the TE down the seam. Or any variation of sideline routes (out/flag/fade/etc) where your "miss" is out of bounds.... to make the running game easier. There has to be a threat of a pass to make room for the run. Otherwise, you go 3 and out for 3 quarters - and against the Chiefs, you're too far behind to try to play catch up in the 4th

I’m sorry but based on last game and our last playoff game, I’m hoping we keep it conservative.

I think if we protect the ball we won’t be down big early.

[NJ-STEELER]

lmao at “just acknowledging what he did” and not seeing the hypocrisy in your own post.

You hate Flacco? You said Lamar stole his shine and Flacco could’ve won all those games if the Ravens didn’t bench him. Sounds like love to me.. lol.

the key word was "could have". like he did when the ravens won the super bowl. i'm glad they subbed jackson in for him or we could have seen baltimore lift another lombardi with the type of team they built up in 2018.
strong defense, incredible running game. sounds similiar to their SB winning team

BTW flacco's playoff record is 10-5
what's lamaar's again ????

Acknowledging Lamar’s win/loss record, MVP win and the fact that he hasn’t set the Ravens back 5 years isn’t love.. its FACTS!!!
if you didn't see it the first time.....what's his playoff record again ? that's a fact too
I'm happy to see they are not successful in the playoffs.
must be sad for you that your Boi is a failure at that

Oh, and did t you admit i was going to get a big contract? It is love that your feeling?
yep, baltimore is stupid, they even rely on buckwheat's decisions when they're thinking of going for 2. hahaha

what's not to love? I hope he gets more then mahomes in his next contract.
the way he throws, i hope he their starter for the next 20 years


Your attacks and accusations have been weak as hell these last few weeks. Step your game up NJ, I expect better from you.

if I step up my game anymore against you, my head would be in the clouds. while you're at the bottom of the ocean

[feltdizz]

if I step up my game anymore against you, my head would be in the clouds. while you're at the bottom of the ocean

lmao.. you call bragging about Flacco’s playoff record stepping up?

Now Flacco could’ve won another SB in 2018???

Sounds like love to me!!!

[NorthCoast]

Texans looking for the next Mike Tomlin. I am sure there are a few posters here that would gladly give them PIT's Mike Tomlin....;

Texans Hope to Find ‘Next Mike Tomlin’ In Coach Search
The Texans will try to strike gold by hiring a coach like Mike Tomlin.
COLE THOMPSON11 HOURS AGO
HOUSTON -- Houston Texans general manager Nick Caserio was given the opportunity to hire the first head coach in the post-Bill O'Brien era. Not many GMs get a second shot of hiring another.

He does, however, have a vision.

The Texans fired David Culley following his first season after posting a 4-13 record. Culley, 66, was never viewed as the long-term solution to fix Houston after a 4-12 season in 2020, and now Houston is looking for its long-term name.

Caserio pointed toward the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin as a model.

"When you look at coach Tomlin, you look at the organization, basically three coaches over the course of the Rooney ownership," Caserio said. "They went from Chuck (Noll) to Bill (Cowher) to Mike. When Mike was hired … he was maybe 31 years old and at the time.

“I don’t think people knew Mike Tomlin was going to not have a losing season in 15 years."

Tomlin, 49, has the Steelers in this weekend’s NFL playoffs. Under his direction, Pittsburgh is 154-85-2 with 10 playoff appearances, two AFC titles and a Super Bowl victory in 2008.

Before becoming Pittsburgh's 16th head coach — and only third since 1969 — Tomlin served as the Vikings defensive coordinator in 2006. Prior to that, he worked for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as their defensive line coach for five seasons.

"Mike’s as good of a coach, I would say as good of a leader as there is in, forget about sports, probably in organizational behavior," Caserio said. "I have a lot of respect and admiration."

Caserio's comments on Tomlin serving one season as a coordinator could indicate which direction the team is leaning. Brian Flores, the former head coach of the Miami Dolphins and a front-runner for the job, was never a coordinator for the Patriots. Instead, he served as the linebacker coach under Bill Belichick.

In similar fashion, current Patriots linebacker coach Jerod Mayo does the same. Without the title of defensive coordinator, Mayo, who played in New England from 2008-15, has input on the defensive plan.

Mayo, 35, has risen up the ranks during his three years as a coach. Houston is interested, but the Denver Broncos also have put in a request to interview him as well. Last season, the Philadelphia Eagles brought Mayo in before settling on Nick Sirianni.

Caserio pointed out how the Rooney family gave Tomlin "the runway and opportunity" when hired in 2007. Houston could plan on doing the same thing with its next head coach, regardless of how long it takes to establish a winning culture

"We’re going to have some bumps in the road along the way," Caserio said. "There are going to be some things that don’t work out the way that really we hope, but ultimately we have to keep pressing forward and take as many people along with us and create an environment that’s conducive to winning on a day-to-day basis."

[Oviedo]

Texans looking for the next Mike Tomlin. I am sure there are a few posters here that would gladly give them PIT's Mike Tomlin....;

Texans Hope to Find ‘Next Mike Tomlin’ In Coach Search
The Texans will try to strike gold by hiring a coach like Mike Tomlin.
COLE THOMPSON11 HOURS AGO
HOUSTON -- Houston Texans general manager Nick Caserio was given the opportunity to hire the first head coach in the post-Bill O'Brien era. Not many GMs get a second shot of hiring another.

He does, however, have a vision.

The Texans fired David Culley following his first season after posting a 4-13 record. Culley, 66, was never viewed as the long-term solution to fix Houston after a 4-12 season in 2020, and now Houston is looking for its long-term name.

Caserio pointed toward the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin as a model.

"When you look at coach Tomlin, you look at the organization, basically three coaches over the course of the Rooney ownership," Caserio said. "They went from Chuck (Noll) to Bill (Cowher) to Mike. When Mike was hired … he was maybe 31 years old and at the time.

“I don’t think people knew Mike Tomlin was going to not have a losing season in 15 years."

Tomlin, 49, has the Steelers in this weekend’s NFL playoffs. Under his direction, Pittsburgh is 154-85-2 with 10 playoff appearances, two AFC titles and a Super Bowl victory in 2008.

Before becoming Pittsburgh's 16th head coach — and only third since 1969 — Tomlin served as the Vikings defensive coordinator in 2006. Prior to that, he worked for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as their defensive line coach for five seasons.

"Mike’s as good of a coach, I would say as good of a leader as there is in, forget about sports, probably in organizational behavior," Caserio said. "I have a lot of respect and admiration."

Caserio's comments on Tomlin serving one season as a coordinator could indicate which direction the team is leaning. Brian Flores, the former head coach of the Miami Dolphins and a front-runner for the job, was never a coordinator for the Patriots. Instead, he served as the linebacker coach under Bill Belichick.

In similar fashion, current Patriots linebacker coach Jerod Mayo does the same. Without the title of defensive coordinator, Mayo, who played in New England from 2008-15, has input on the defensive plan.

Mayo, 35, has risen up the ranks during his three years as a coach. Houston is interested, but the Denver Broncos also have put in a request to interview him as well. Last season, the Philadelphia Eagles brought Mayo in before settling on Nick Sirianni.

Caserio pointed out how the Rooney family gave Tomlin "the runway and opportunity" when hired in 2007. Houston could plan on doing the same thing with its next head coach, regardless of how long it takes to establish a winning culture

"We’re going to have some bumps in the road along the way," Caserio said. "There are going to be some things that don’t work out the way that really we hope, but ultimately we have to keep pressing forward and take as many people along with us and create an environment that’s conducive to winning on a day-to-day basis."

Just another example how respected Tomlin is by the professionals, despite being hated by nobodies

[hawaiiansteel]

Just another example how respected Tomlin is by the professionals, despite being hated by nobodies

[NJ-STEELER]

Texans looking for the next Mike Tomlin. I am sure there are a few posters here that would gladly give them PIT's Mike Tomlin....;

Texans Hope to Find ‘Next Mike Tomlin’ In Coach Search
The Texans will try to strike gold by hiring a coach like Mike Tomlin.
COLE THOMPSON11 HOURS AGO
HOUSTON -- Houston Texans general manager Nick Caserio was given the opportunity to hire the first head coach in the post-Bill O'Brien era. Not many GMs get a second shot of hiring another.

He does, however, have a vision.

The Texans fired David Culley following his first season after posting a 4-13 record. Culley, 66, was never viewed as the long-term solution to fix Houston after a 4-12 season in 2020, and now Houston is looking for its long-term name.

Caserio pointed toward the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin as a model.

"When you look at coach Tomlin, you look at the organization, basically three coaches over the course of the Rooney ownership," Caserio said. "They went from Chuck (Noll) to Bill (Cowher) to Mike. When Mike was hired … he was maybe 31 years old and at the time.

“I don’t think people knew Mike Tomlin was going to not have a losing season in 15 years."

Tomlin, 49, has the Steelers in this weekend’s NFL playoffs. Under his direction, Pittsburgh is 154-85-2 with 10 playoff appearances, two AFC titles and a Super Bowl victory in 2008.

Before becoming Pittsburgh's 16th head coach — and only third since 1969 — Tomlin served as the Vikings defensive coordinator in 2006. Prior to that, he worked for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as their defensive line coach for five seasons.

"Mike’s as good of a coach, I would say as good of a leader as there is in, forget about sports, probably in organizational behavior," Caserio said. "I have a lot of respect and admiration."

Caserio's comments on Tomlin serving one season as a coordinator could indicate which direction the team is leaning. Brian Flores, the former head coach of the Miami Dolphins and a front-runner for the job, was never a coordinator for the Patriots. Instead, he served as the linebacker coach under Bill Belichick.

In similar fashion, current Patriots linebacker coach Jerod Mayo does the same. Without the title of defensive coordinator, Mayo, who played in New England from 2008-15, has input on the defensive plan.

Mayo, 35, has risen up the ranks during his three years as a coach. Houston is interested, but the Denver Broncos also have put in a request to interview him as well. Last season, the Philadelphia Eagles brought Mayo in before settling on Nick Sirianni.

Caserio pointed out how the Rooney family gave Tomlin "the runway and opportunity" when hired in 2007. Houston could plan on doing the same thing with its next head coach, regardless of how long it takes to establish a winning culture

"We’re going to have some bumps in the road along the way," Caserio said. "There are going to be some things that don’t work out the way that really we hope, but ultimately we have to keep pressing forward and take as many people along with us and create an environment that’s conducive to winning on a day-to-day basis."

they should offer tomlin to them for 2 first round picks.
maybe get the giants Involved to get more out of either team

[NJ-STEELER]

lmao.. you call bragging about Flacco’s playoff record stepping up?

Now Flacco could’ve won another SB in 2018???

Sounds like love to me!!!

Does your brain not remember the run he went on and won the SB there martavious?
if you don’t remember, he didn’t go 1-3 in that postseason

[Buzz]

Texans should've kept the guy they had ... he may have been the "next MT" -- had them playing up to and beyond their ability -- deserved another year at least, IMO

[hawaiiansteel]

Texans should've kept the guy they had ... he may have been the "next MT" -- had them playing up to and beyond their ability -- deserved another year at least, IMO

Hines Ward interviewed for the Texans HC job.

[feltdizz]

Does your brain not remember the run he went on and won the SB there martavious?
if you don’t remember, he didn’t go 1-3 in that postseason

sounds like Raven love to me!!

[Ernie]

I'm with Deville.
If we are conservative early, they WILL get a big lead. We saw it last time.

We gotta risk it. Ben MIGHT turn it over. But our only chance is 4th quarter Ben from the start and HOPING he is clean. Gotta take the risk, cause "safe" has no chance.

Agreed 100%... and that starts with our "Last in the league" running game. If we come out the first few drives trying to establish the run (like we always do)... then we are cooked.
We have to open up the air attack early.. and sustain some drives... move the sticks.. soften up the defense enough to where we can gain positive yards on the run game.. effectively shortening the game. If we have multiple 3 and outs our score may be comparable to the Buffalo, NE game.

[T.Ferguson]

Even if Ben does have a turnover I'd take an aggressive approach all day over the same conservative approach the team has employed all season to start games. The team simply has no chance going that route. I remember watching the Titans play the Chiefs in Arrowhead during the playoffs the year the Chiefs won the SB. The Titans were actually up 10-0 and 17-7 and had 0 turnovers all game, the Chiefs would then score 4 straight TD's to take a 35-17 after the Titans offense stalled. Have to be aggressive offensively, pass to set up the run.

[feltdizz]

Even if Ben does have a turnover I'd take an aggressive approach all day over the same conservative approach the team has employed all season to start games. The team simply has no chance going that route. I remember watching the Titans play the Chiefs in Arrowhead during the playoffs the year the Chiefs won the SB. The Titans were actually up 10-0 and 17-7 and had 0 turnovers all game, the Chiefs would then score 4 straight TD's to take a 35-17 after the Titans offense stalled. Have to be aggressive offensively, pass to set up the run.

I’ve also seen the Texans up big early in the playoffs and try a fake punt being “aggressive” while up 21-0.

They lost 51 to 31.

It doesn’t matter which way you play if you can’t stop them once they get rolling.

Best way is ball control offense and limiting turnovers. You won’t win a shootout with KC.

[Sword]

Agreed 100%... and that starts with our "Last in the league" running game. If we come out the first few drives trying to establish the run (like we always do)... then we are cooked.
We have to open up the air attack early.. and sustain some drives... move the sticks.. soften up the defense enough to where we can gain positive yards on the run game.. effectively shortening the game. If we have multiple 3 and outs our score may be comparable to the Buffalo, NE game.

This is exactly correct! we cannot come out like we always do trying to run, they will be stacking the line and challenging us to try and throw. If we can prove we can burn them in passing and I'm not talking 30 yard bombs. We then can mix up and run.
We need new pass plays to tight ends and such.....we now have a chance.....we also need to blitz at times 6...