"Trust The Process"

[Steel Maniac]

Could be, or it could be as simple as your high priced QB has to play like a high priced QB. In 10 games, Josh Allen has the following great performances:

QBR 129.8 - W 43-21 WFT
QBR 139.1 - W 38-20 KC
QBR 125.6 - W 45-17 NYJ

and the following poor performances:

QBR 79.7 L 23-16 Steelers
QBR 75.2 W 35-0 MIA
QBR 62.7 L 9-6 JAX
QBR 72.2 L 41-15 IND

With only one exception, when the QB plays well, the Bills win. When he plays bad, they lose. They better hope that they did not make a $258M mistake.

Does not the win/lose determination depend on the play of the QB for most teams?

I think it is more weighted on Buffalo than most because of their overall poor run game from their running backs.

[hawaiiansteel]

Does not the win/lose determination depend on the play of the QB for most teams?

except for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

then it's always just Tomlin's fault when we lose

[feltdizz]

except for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

then it's always just Tomlin's fault when we lose

and Lamar Hackson

all those wins are because of Harbaugh and the defense.

[hawaiiansteel]

and Lamar Hackson

all those wins are because of Harbaugh and the defense.

all of Steel Maniac's predictions are time based.

if the Browns beat the Ravens this Sunday you will see him bump his LJ thread with a "gloat gloat gloat".

if the Ravens win, nary a word will be heard.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Does not the win/lose determination depend on the play of the QB for most teams?

Sure, but not too many teams get QB play this extreme, and is certainly is not what they expect when they pay $258M.

[Captain Lemming]

Get ready NC.

I'll get blasted by a few posters for suggesting luck / chance is very important in playoff games.

But this makes a lot of sense IMO.

To further your point.

If the best kicker in the league doesn't choke, how incredibly different would Cowhers legacy look?

He would have ONE Superbowl LOSS back in 1995 on his SB resume'.

How would we consider Tomlin?

"Cowhers players" that Tomlin inherited would have NEVER been to a SB much less won one before Tomlin.

If that one kick is made Tomlin is forever the hero who did what Cowher could not do with "his players".

If Cowher never won and there are SB wins between Noll AND Tomlin?

Gone would be the ridiculous perception that Tomlin is the only thing preventing us from our birthright of NFL domination. We'd realize winning championships is stinkin hard and canning your coach doesn't guarantee a better outcome.

But the kicker made it and Cowhers legacy is that of a HOFer. Ditto for Jerome Bettis BTW. Yes Ben saved the TD but if they make the kick Bettis is forever the choker who blew that game.

But a chance factor outside of their control is how they won.

Cowher and Bettis were helpless bystanders of an unlikely choke that absolutely changed forever their legacy as Steelers.

Cowher can thank that kicker for his gold jacket.

[Steel Maniac]

To further your point.

If the best kicker in the league doesn't choke, how incredibly different would Cowhers legacy look?

He would have ONE Superbowl LOSS back in 1995 on his SB resume'.

How would we consider Tomlin?

"Cowhers players" that Tomlin inherited would have NEVER been to a SB much less won one before Tomlin.

If that one kick is made Tomlin is forever the hero who did what Cowher could not do with "his players".

If Cowher never won and there are SB wins between Noll AND Tomlin?

Gone would be the ridiculous perception that Tomlin is the only thing preventing us from our birthright of NFL domination. We'd realize winning championships is stinkin hard and canning your coach doesn't guarantee a better outcome.

But the kicker made it and Cowhers legacy is that of a HOFer. Ditto for Jerome Bettis BTW. Yes Ben saved the TD but if they make the kick Bettis is forever the choker who blew that game.

But a chance factor outside of their control is how they won.

Cowher and Bettis were helpless bystanders of an unlikely choke that absolutely changed forever their legacy as Steelers.

Cowher can thank that kicker for his gold jacket.

If Scott Norwood wouldn’t have missed…

If Venitari didn’t make that field goal in the Super Bowl against the Rams…..

If the referee didn’t call that bogus off-sides penalty on the Chiefs 3 years ago in the AFC championship game against the Pats………..

If, If, If……

[hawaiiansteel]

If Scott Norwood wouldn’t have missed…

If Venitari didn’t make that field goal in the Super Bowl against the Rams…..

If the referee didn’t call that bogus off-sides penalty on the Chiefs 3 years ago in the AFC championship game against the Pats………..

If, If, If……

if only we would have traded ALMOSt all of our draft picks to move up to #1 to draft Trevor Lawrence like you proposed.

if only Mike Tomlin's teams would have drafted earlier than Cowher's so Tomlin would have been the better coach.

if only the Dolphins would have gotten rid of Don Shula earlier so that they could have won more Super Bowls than they have since.

If, If, If......

[feltdizz]

To further your point.

If the best kicker in the league doesn't choke, how incredibly different would Cowhers legacy look?

He would have ONE Superbowl LOSS back in 1995 on his SB resume'.

How would we consider Tomlin?

"Cowhers players" that Tomlin inherited would have NEVER been to a SB much less won one before Tomlin.

If that one kick is made Tomlin is forever the hero who did what Cowher could not do with "his players".

If Cowher never won and there are SB wins between Noll AND Tomlin?

Gone would be the ridiculous perception that Tomlin is the only thing preventing us from our birthright of NFL domination. We'd realize winning championships is stinkin hard and canning your coach doesn't guarantee a better outcome.

But the kicker made it and Cowhers legacy is that of a HOFer. Ditto for Jerome Bettis BTW. Yes Ben saved the TD but if they make the kick Bettis is forever the choker who blew that game.

But a chance factor outside of their control is how they won.

Cowher and Bettis were helpless bystanders of an unlikely choke that absolutely changed forever their legacy as Steelers.

Cowher can thank that kicker for his gold jacket.

I get your point but that kick would’ve sent it to OT. It wouldn’t have won the game.

but its definitely a game of inches and no one should ever shrug at a SB win like they do with Tomlin simply to keep an agenda going.

[NJ-STEELER]

To further your point.

If the best kicker in the league doesn't choke, how incredibly different would Cowhers legacy look?

He would have ONE Superbowl LOSS back in 1995 on his SB resume'.

How would we consider Tomlin?

"Cowhers players" that Tomlin inherited would have NEVER been to a SB much less won one before Tomlin.

If that one kick is made Tomlin is forever the hero who did what Cowher could not do with "his players".

If Cowher never won and there are SB wins between Noll AND Tomlin?

Gone would be the ridiculous perception that Tomlin is the only thing preventing us from our birthright of NFL domination. We'd realize winning championships is stinkin hard and canning your coach doesn't guarantee a better outcome.

But the kicker made it and Cowhers legacy is that of a HOFer. Ditto for Jerome Bettis BTW. Yes Ben saved the TD but if they make the kick Bettis is forever the choker who blew that game.

But a chance factor outside of their control is how they won.

Cowher and Bettis were helpless bystanders of an unlikely choke that absolutely changed forever their legacy as Steelers.

Cowher can thank that kicker for his gold jacket.

the colts got extremely lucky just to get to that point. troy's INT they reviewed and overturned
jerome buckner's fumble trying to run out the clock

and a successful FG would have just put the game into overtime

[Northern_Blitz]

If Scott Norwood wouldn’t have missed…

If Venitari didn’t make that field goal in the Super Bowl against the Rams…..

If the referee didn’t call that bogus off-sides penalty on the Chiefs 3 years ago in the AFC championship game against the Pats………..

If, If, If……

There are lots of "unlucky" little things that have happened to us that piled up in the playoffs. And those little turns of chance make a big difference in outcome. Any my general feeling here is that having a market level QB makes it so that your team is less resilient so it's harder to deal with big injuries because your depth suffers.

• If Pouncey could snap the ball and Ben remembered that we weren't the team in white vs. the Browns. [maybe this one doesn't count as luck...but turnovers always have an element of chance IMO]
• If Ben's fumble against Jax doesn't go for a TD (or if he doesn't fumble at all).
• If Shazier doesn't have a career ending injury.
• If Bell doesn't get hurt against the Pats when he was dominant in that playoff run pre-injury.
• If Bell was generally healthy in other playoff runs and we weren't playing guys like Toussaint or Todman or whatever other replacement level RBs we had.
• If Brown doesn't get KO'd vs the Bengals in a playoff run where we already had Bell hurt (so that our "stacked" team basically had Bryant as the lone starter in the skill positions)
• If we won the turnover ratio in the playoffs.

As everyone knows, the line between winning and losing in the NFL is very thing. Especially in the playoffs where basically all the worst teams aren't playing anymore. That means that the little things that don't go your way are often the difference (especially when you lose the turnover battle)

[snarky]

Sports fans become irrationally upset when confronted with the reality that the best team doesn't always win.

[Buzz]

Still trusting the process?