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  • Flasteel
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4008

    #61
    Originally posted by LPMAN
    I agree with everything you said there except me being a parrot. I don't listen to the media so i didn't know others were calling him that. By the way i love Big Ben one of my favorite players ever. But he can't connect long much anymore. Just sayin'
    Fair enough, but Ben's arm is obviously not shot. I know a lot of people are pointing to that 42-yarder to Washington as evidence, but Ben's arm was hit on that play. Not sure what other evidence you might be using to arrive at that conclusion. If you think he's got a noodle arm now, I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.

    A lot of what I stated was also more directed at Maniac, as he seemed to be steering that ship and maybe kind of swept you into it. Good to know we can find common ground.
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    • LPMAN
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2021
      • 2042

      #62
      Easy; ever since his tommy john like arm surgery no more long pass completions. His whole career he's thrown long completions. POOF GONE!

      No way you haven't noticed. And no it's not the wides not getting open. And no it's not the OL not giving him time....

      and when he does complete one every blue moon, the wide is open long, he throws it with a lot of air under it, & the wide has to go try to fight off the secondary for a completion.
      Last edited by LPMAN; 11-14-2021, 01:02 PM.

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      • Starlifter
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 5098

        #63
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Starlifter may think so but anyone who has watched the NFL knows there us no such thing as an automatic win.

        ..especially with a last minute QB change.
        Not sure where you came to this conclusion. I’ve been saying this isn’t an automatic win even when Ben was starting.
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        • whisper
          Legend
          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          #64
          Originally posted by Terrapin
          I had covid also and I came through just fine. You're probably fat and have a lot of health problems. Isn't Ben vaccinated? Odd how everyone that's vaccinated is positive huh?
          Odd, indeed. Oh, it's no big deal, no vax is perfect. Just ask the sheep who follow whatever the establishment tells them without applying critical thinking.

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          • whisper
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            • Mar 2020
            • 9423

            #65
            Originally posted by Starlifter
            Not sure where you came to this conclusion. I’ve been saying this isn’t an automatic win even when Ben was starting.
            It's for sure not automatic win with Tomlin as head coach, or haven't you followed his career?

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            • whisper
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              • Mar 2020
              • 9423

              #66
              Originally posted by LPMAN
              Easy; ever since his tommy john like arm surgery no more long pass completions. His whole career he's thrown long completions. POOF GONE!

              No way you haven't noticed. And no it's not the wides not getting open. And no it's not the OL not giving him time....

              and when he does complete one every blue moon, the wide is open long, he throws it with a lot of air under it, & the wide has to go try to fight off the secondary for a completion.
              Yup, I noticed.

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              • Northern_Blitz
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                • Dec 2008
                • 24382

                #67
                Originally posted by Flasteel
                Fair enough, but Ben's arm is obviously not shot. I know a lot of people are pointing to that 42-yarder to Washington as evidence, but Ben's arm was hit on that play. Not sure what other evidence you might be using to arrive at that conclusion. If you think he's got a noodle arm now, I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.

                A lot of what I stated was also more directed at Maniac, as he seemed to be steering that ship and maybe kind of swept you into it. Good to know we can find common ground.
                I don't think his arm is shot.

                He can still throw it hard in most cases.

                Accuracy is the issue. Maybe something with the knees screwing with his delivery?

                But I don't think his arm was hit on that play.

                Check out 5:10 to 5:30 in this video.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #68
                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  Keep in mind Ben's wife is a Physician Assistant. Probably a little more informed about health issues
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                  • pfelix73
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3463

                    #69
                    Originally posted by LPMAN
                    Easy; ever since his tommy john like arm surgery no more long pass completions. His whole career he's thrown long completions. POOF GONE!

                    No way you haven't noticed. And no it's not the wides not getting open. And no it's not the OL not giving him time....

                    and when he does complete one every blue moon, the wide is open long, he throws it with a lot of air under it, & the wide has to go try to fight off the secondary for a completion.
                    There's been a change of offensive philosophy the past 2 years. It's merely coincidence. They aren't using this offense just because of Ben. Arians offense used to be the deep passing attack. PLUS we had AB. We don't have a home run hitter as WR- ok Maybe Chase, but he's in and out of the lineup. Right now, out. I feel as if some of you need to do a better job of paying attention before you write some
                    of this stuff.
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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #70
                      Originally posted by LPMAN
                      Easy; ever since his tommy john like arm surgery no more long pass completions. His whole career he's thrown long completions. POOF GONE!

                      No way you haven't noticed. And no it's not the wides not getting open. And no it's not the OL not giving him time....

                      and when he does complete one every blue moon, the wide is open long, he throws it with a lot of air under it, & the wide has to go try to fight off the secondary for a completion.
                      We need to do something about our QB position . Back ups included. An overhaul is needed.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
                        • 35649

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Keep in mind Ben's wife is a Physician Assistant. Probably a little more informed about health issues
                        good point, didn't know that about Ben's wife.

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                        • JTP53609
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1888

                          #72
                          I know this isn’t 1958, but he’s made 200+ million in his career, pretty shocking his wife’s working, It’s admirable though, good for her.

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                          • NJ-STEELER
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                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            #73
                            Originally posted by JTP53609
                            I know this isn’t 1958, but he’s made 200+ million in his career, pretty shocking his wife’s working, It’s admirable though, good for her.
                            with 3 little kiddos running around, i would guess she's not working. but that doesn't take away from her training. she's likely up to date with all the covid infromation

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                            • Steel Maniac
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              #74
                              Well , with the Chargers losing today, they’ll be good and salty for next week.

                              I hope Ben doesn’t play like Aaron Rodgers today after he came back from his Covid absence.

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                              • papillon
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 11340

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                Well , with the Chargers losing today, they’ll be good and salty for next week.

                                I hope Ben doesn’t play like Aaron Rodgers today after he came back from his Covid absence.
                                I didn't see the game but Rodgers passed for 292 with a 7.9 YPA, 0 TDs and 1 pick, it doesn't sound too bad but like I said, I didn't see any of the game.

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