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  • NJ-STEELER
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    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #61
    Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
    Something is wrong with people. In a perfect world things would go perfectly. But here we are talking about this ish even though the Steelers won. Now what are odds that the Browns would had won even if they had 1 to 4 seconds on the clock? Odds probably 0.0000000000001%

    Some people need to get a life is all I can say.

    minnesota had no timeouts left on their last drive cause they burned them all prior to that (a mikey special)
    How did that turn out for them?

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    • NJ-STEELER
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      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #62
      Originally posted by Moonie
      I don't disagree with a lot of that. If I was a coach, I'd probably never call a fake field goal. But the reality is, the play call exists and most teams try it out once a year (I'm guessing), so when are the optimal times? If someone doesn't have a reasonable answer to when that is, then complaining about today's failure is just faux-outrage.
      when your team isn't struggling for points. both in the game and during the season.

      here's 1 example. when you up by 3. another FG makes it 6 and you would be losing after a TD by the other team.
      as you would be if the fake FG failed.

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #63
        and here's the kicker (pun intended)




        there's out 260 Lbs punter throwing the ball. I bet he wouldn't hit the ground as hard after being hit by a browns defender

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27508

          #64
          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          minnesota had no timeouts left on their last drive cause they burned them all prior to that (a mikey special)
          How did that turn out for them?
          Tomlin coached the Minnesota Vikings last night?
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
            • 24364

            #65
            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            where am I saying the clock would have started again?

            run down the clock and take a penalty to have the least amount of time left on the game clock. romo said 4 seconds would be left and we would have another (4th) down to try and kill the rest of the time on 4th down.

            killing 4 seconds on the last play is a lot easier then killing 6 seconds of clock to end the game. it gave more of a chance for the browns to get a play
            You know we had a penalty, right?

            Going back, it reads like you're original post was saying that the game could have been over "run the clock out".

            From this post, it seems like maybe you meant run the play clock out and don't break the huddle?

            That makes more sense.

            And its in keeping with your obsession of blaming Tomlin for things that don't matter.

            Like the onside kick thing, where we would have needed 2 onside kicks and two scoring drives without much time and obvious onside kicks probably have lower success rates than fake FGs.

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            • Jooser
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              • Jul 2008
              • 5099

              #66
              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              and here's the kicker (pun intended)




              there's out 260 Lbs punter throwing the ball. I bet he wouldn't hit the ground as hard after being hit by a browns defender
              This! That's what I was thinking too. If you're gonna do it, let the big guy roll out and throw it. Hell, the defenders wouldn't be salivating to come up and hit this tank at least!
              ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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              • Eich
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                • Jul 2010
                • 7038

                #67
                I like being agressive. I like Tomlin. But sometimes, his "gut" seems to misinform his decisions.

                -It's a close game against a division rival in the first half. No need to pull out all the stops yet.
                -It's at the end of the half, where we're going to get the ball back to start the 2nd. You really want to score something.
                -Boz is pretty much an automatic 3 points here.
                -It's 4th and NINE yards packed in towards the goal line. BEN has trouble converting these. Our kicker is going to do it?
                -And then Boz does his best Ben impression and holds the ball forever instead of getting rid of it.

                Adding insult to injury (pun intended), Boz is roughed, concussed AND the refs miss (don't call) the roughing, which any QB in the league not named Ben would get.

                It's really hard to defend that call at that time in the game. Head scratching.

                The only slight positive that came out of that misery is that the offense played with urgency the rest of the game, knowing that they had no abililty to kick field goals. They knew they had to score TD's.
                Last edited by Eich; 11-01-2021, 08:49 AM.

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                • Eich
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                  • Jul 2010
                  • 7038

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Jooser
                  This! That's what I was thinking too. If you're gonna do it, let the big guy roll out and throw it. Hell, the defenders wouldn't be salivating to come up and hit this tank at least!
                  But he doesn't kick field goals. They wouldn't even let him on the field to kick extra points. Do you mean let him try a fake during a punt? Or are you suggesting that he line up to kick that field goal in place of Boz?

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #69
                    Originally posted by pittpete
                    My question is why do we refuse to run the ball inside the red zone?
                    Pure stupidity or cockiness?
                    Just ran the ball down their throats and we pass 3x
                    This offense is hard to watch and getting worse
                    Now we got the Bears next; our schedule as of late is the best thing going for us. Playing these banged up teams is really fortunate. I’ll take it.
                    Last edited by Steel Maniac; 11-01-2021, 09:05 AM.

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                    • Jooser
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5099

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Eich
                      But he doesn't kick field goals. They wouldn't even let him on the field to kick extra points. Do you mean let him try a fake during a punt? Or are you suggesting that he line up to kick that field goal in place of Boz?

                      um, no. Snap it to Harvin, let Boz go through the motion of kicking, Harvin tucks the ball, stands up, turns around, and rolls right, either throws or runs his gigantic ass 8 yards for a TD. Hope that clears it up.
                      ​2019 MNFE CHAMPION

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27508

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                        You know we had a penalty, right?

                        Going back, it reads like you're original post was saying that the game could have been over "run the clock out".

                        From this post, it seems like maybe you meant run the play clock out and don't break the huddle?

                        That makes more sense.

                        And its in keeping with your obsession of blaming Tomlin for things that don't matter.

                        Like the onside kick thing, where we would have needed 2 onside kicks and two scoring drives without much time and obvious onside kicks probably have lower success rates than fake FGs.
                        but those 2 extra seconds are an eternity.

                        Did it look like Ben had any trouble running out the clock with 6 seconds?

                        just run back a little further and chuck it a little higher.

                        Dude is really pressed to turn every decision into a way to lose a game.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
                          • 27508

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Eich
                          I like being agressive. I like Tomlin. But sometimes, his "gut" seems to misinform his decisions.

                          -It's a close game against a division rival in the first half. No need to pull out all the stops yet.
                          -It's at the end of the half, where we're going to get the ball back to start the 2nd. You really want to score something.
                          -Boz is pretty much an automatic 3 points here.
                          -It's 4th and NINE yards packed in towards the goal line. BEN has trouble converting these. Our kicker is going to do it?
                          -And then Boz does his best Ben impression and holds the ball forever instead of getting rid of it.

                          Adding insult to injury (pun intended), Boz is roughed, concussed AND the refs miss (don't call) the roughing, which any QB in the league not named Ben would get.

                          It's really hard to defend that call at that time in the game. Head scratching.

                          The only slight positive that came out of that misery is that the offense played with urgency the rest of the game, knowing that they had no abililty to kick field goals. They knew they had to score TD's.
                          I didn’t like the decision..

                          but Boz also tried to do his best Montana to Clark impression instead of just throwing it away or in the dirt.

                          and regardless of the decision that was a penalty. Should have been 1st and GL.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • NorthCoast
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26633

                            #73
                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            where am I saying the clock would have started again?

                            run down the clock and take a penalty to have the least amount of time left on the game clock. romo said 4 seconds would be left and we would have another (4th) down to try and kill the rest of the time on 4th down.

                            killing 4 seconds on the last play is a lot easier then killing 6 seconds of clock to end the game. it gave more of a chance for the browns to get a play
                            You've chosen to blame the HC for lack of awareness when it's equally possible to blame an 18 yr veteran HOF QB for the same thing. Why does he need a coach whispering in his ear on that?

                            But, I'm not gonna even go there because it really was inconsequential.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27508

                              #74
                              Originally posted by NorthCoast
                              You've chosen to blame the HC for lack of awareness when it's equally possible to blame an 18 yr veteran HOF QB for the same thing. Why does he need a coach whispering in his ear on that?

                              But, I'm not gonna even go there because it really was inconsequential.
                              If Ben farted he would blame Tomlin for how bad it stinks.

                              Dude will use anything against Tomlin.

                              Minnesota lost last night and somehow Tomlin played a part in it.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                                • May 2008
                                • 10277

                                #75
                                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                                it's a great call if it works and a boneheaded call if it doesn't.
                                No, it is like hitting on 19 against a 5. Even if you hit a 2 it was a stupid call that just happened to work out. That was a bad time to call that play.
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