He has given up

[feltdizz]

So, they were just talking about this on the back side of Tomlins noon PC. Tomlin was asked about this, and he made 1 subtle remark that went something like this. Ben doesn't have the means to change a play in those 'waning moments' before the ball is hiked. Meaning, that Canada has reigned in Ben and his ability to change at LOS. This is absurd. IF Canada is coaching us like a college team, then he needs to go back to college.

I think waning moments means last few seconds before the play clock expires.

If it was your theory than it would mean Ben has the time early in the game but not late in the game to change plays which makes no sense.

I seriously doubt we are handcuffing a vet like Ben but I can see them trying to limit the amount of plays due to how young the offense is..

I think I remember someone posting an article about Ben once having 100 plays to choose from and pooing at only having 20 plays to pull from on the fly.

Who the hell remembers 100 plays? I seriously doubt these young rookies can remember that many audibles.

[NorthCoast]

So, they were just talking about this on the back side of Tomlins noon PC. Tomlin was asked about this, and he made 1 subtle remark that went something like this. Ben doesn't have the means to change a play in those 'waning moments' before the ball is hiked. Meaning, that Canada has reigned in Ben and his ability to change at LOS. This is absurd. IF Canada is coaching us like a college team, then he needs to go back to college.

I listened to Tomlin's presser. His answer to the question wasn't very direct (as usual). He also said they have certain plays called for those circumstances and Roethlisberger has limited opportunities to change 'during these very fluid moments'.

I don't have a problem with this early in the season. Canada has to cut his teeth at some point. Now it could also be the case where Roethlisberger is taking it to the extreme by running what's called even though he has some latitude based on pre-snap looks.

[Northern_Blitz]

Here's Alex K's breakdown of the failed 4th down play to Juju.

Check out at ~ 3:45 where they talk about the motion man vs zone and play clock.

[NJ-STEELER]

So, they were just talking about this on the back side of Tomlins noon PC. Tomlin was asked about this, and he made 1 subtle remark that went something like this. Ben doesn't have the means to change a play in those 'waning moments' before the ball is hiked. Meaning, that Canada has reigned in Ben and his ability to change at LOS. This is absurd. IF Canada is coaching us like a college team, then he needs to go back to college.

charlie batch has mentioned this as well

[Joel Buchsbaum]

These are all fair points but you’re saying he’s doesn’t care in your original post. That goes way beyond his physical limitations. I seriously doubt he’s “given up and lost his desire”.

This team has a laundry list of problems. Ben’s desire is at the bottom of the list.

The list of problems are long indeed. But ben being the qb deserves some of the blame. If we lose to Denver hello 1-4, were are done and so is Ben.

[Captain Lemming]

its the threat of getting hit more then getting hit.

the ball coming out quickly reduces the chances of mahorn running thru him

Exactly.
It's like when the kids reflexively tense up when you swing your arm up just to scratch you head...oh wait...

Please ignore that.

[NJ-STEELER]

Exactly.
It's like when the kids reflexively tense up when you swing your arm up just to scratch you head...oh wait...

Please ignore that.

hahaha.

you gotta test them so they know who's the boss

[feltdizz]

Exactly.
It's like when the kids reflexively tense up when you swing your arm up just to scratch you head...oh wait...

Please ignore that.

that’s awful.. lol.

Seriously though, its football.. the threat of getting hit is part of the game. I think once you start flinching like that its time to retire.

Slightly different but still relevant, if you watch the NBA there is a guy named Ben Simmons. Dude lost all confidence in his shot and only attempted 3 shots in the 4th quarter of a 7 game series. He was under the basket with no one around him and refused to shoot the ball.

When your team can’t depend on you in crunch time, its time to move on.

If he is truly afraid of being hit we need to put him on IR.