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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7744

    Some bad news. Its not good qb class.

    Sorry to read this news. The guy I like, Sam Howell is having a bad year. We will have a top 12 pick based on how we are trending. Spener Rattler?
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***
  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26633

    #2
    Why draft a QB and put him behind this OL? Do you want them to copy the Jets fiasco? And look at Lawrence behind his sorry OL.

    Everyone agrees the OL needs fixed. Dotson last season, Moore and Green this season. Find a RT and another guard next draft. Also, I suspect there will be FA QBs floating around after this season that could be worth a look. Not out of the question that Watson and Rodgers aren't on their current teams.

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    • Terrapin
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2017
      • 2081

      #3
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      Why draft a QB and put him behind this OL? Do you want them to copy the Jets fiasco? And look at Lawrence behind his sorry OL.

      Everyone agrees the OL needs fixed. Dotson last season, Moore and Green this season. Find a RT and another guard next draft. Also, I suspect there will be FA QBs floating around after this season that could be worth a look. Not out of the question that Watson and Rodgers aren't on their current teams.
      Green is a scrub.

      I'd be all for getting Watson for an extremely reduced cost

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      • steelguin
        Backup
        • Oct 2016
        • 115

        #4
        Not sold on Dotson either.

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        • Terrapin
          Pro Bowler
          • Sep 2017
          • 2081

          #5
          Originally posted by steelguin
          Not sold on Dotson either.
          Actually, there's not a single lineman on our roster that should be in a starting lineup.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35639

            #6
            Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
            Sorry to read this news. The guy I like, Sam Howell is having a bad year. We will have a top 12 pick based on how we are trending. Spener Rattler?
            Ole Miss QB Matt Corral is skyrocketing up draft boards.

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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #7
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              Sorry to read this news. The guy I like, Sam Howell is having a bad year. We will have a top 12 pick based on how we are trending. Spener Rattler?

              caller into mad dog live (sirius raido 82) said the home fans were booing him. and after the was over, the media were immediately asking the home fans not to boo him
              strange

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              • whatever
                Legend
                • Sep 2019
                • 5795

                #8
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                Why draft a QB and put him behind this OL? Do you want them to copy the Jets fiasco? And look at Lawrence behind his sorry OL.

                Everyone agrees the OL needs fixed. Dotson last season, Moore and Green this season. Find a RT and another guard next draft. Also, I suspect there will be FA QBs floating around after this season that could be worth a look. Not out of the question that Watson and Rodgers aren't on their current teams.
                I think there were plenty who said this oline would be fine. New oc and te would utilize their talents and would scheme impressive have plans. Unlike fitchner.
                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                • Ghost
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6305

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Sorry to read this news. The guy I like, Sam Howell is having a bad year. We will have a top 12 pick based on how we are trending. Spener Rattler?
                  Hard No. He has an arm but not the head or decision making skills. His own home crowd was audibly screaming for his back-up throughout his last game. He almost lost to Tulane and they barely beat unranked WVU.
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                  • SteelBucks
                    Legend
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 8075

                    #10
                    When in doubt, look to the MAC. A name to remember is Dustin Crum at Kent State.

                    I also like Desmond Ridder at Cincinnati.

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by whatever
                      I think there were plenty who said this oline would be fine. New oc and te would utilize their talents and would scheme impressive have plans. Unlike fitchner.
                      Its too difficult to determine where guys like Moore and Green will end up as players because they don't have any veterans to learn from, lean on or anchor the line. The Steelers need them to be those guys and they're rookies for crying out loud. I'd be willing to bet that putting Moore and Green on a line with Villanueva, DeCastro, and Pouncey and we'd all be happy with their play because the vets would be able to provide leadership and experience. Until these players all get that experience, there will be inconsistencies, penalties and sacks of Ben. I'm still hopeful that these young guys get it and begin to put it together, its called growing pains.

                      Now, what I hate is hiring an untested OC and offensive line coach to coach the linemen and put together an offense with these young guys. The Steelers needed experience and leadership somewhere for the linemen and there isn't any. Canada may become a good OC but not with this group, he probably would have benefited from an experienced line. So, untested OC and line coach, rookie LT and C, promising but under performing (so far) LG, high draft pick but bounced around RG and whatever Chuks is right now is the recipe for a bumpy ride to start. I have faith they will all figure it out and begin to work as a unit, stop with dumb penalties and gel as a unit by years end.

                      Hopefully, that, at least has the Steelers in the hunt for a playoff spot.

                      Pappy
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                      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #12
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Its too difficult to determine where guys like Moore and Green will end up as players because they don't have any veterans to learn from, lean on or anchor the line. The Steelers need them to be those guys and they're rookies for crying out loud. I'd be willing to bet that putting Moore and Green on a line with Villanueva, DeCastro, and Pouncey and we'd all be happy with their play because the vets would be able to provide leadership and experience. Until these players all get that experience, there will be inconsistencies, penalties and sacks of Ben. I'm still hopeful that these young guys get it and begin to put it together, its called growing pains.

                        Now, what I hate is hiring an untested OC and offensive line coach to coach the linemen and put together an offense with these young guys. The Steelers needed experience and leadership somewhere for the linemen and there isn't any. Canada may become a good OC but not with this group, he probably would have benefited from an experienced line. So, untested OC and line coach, rookie LT and C, promising but under performing (so far) LG, high draft pick but bounced around RG and whatever Chuks is right now is the recipe for a bumpy ride to start. I have faith they will all figure it out and begin to work as a unit, stop with dumb penalties and gel as a unit by years end.

                        Hopefully, that, at least has the Steelers in the hunt for a playoff spot.

                        Pappy
                        Solid points. Rookie OC and rookie O-line coach.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35639

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          Why draft a QB and put him behind this OL? Do you want them to copy the Jets fiasco? And look at Lawrence behind his sorry OL.

                          Everyone agrees the OL needs fixed. Dotson last season, Moore and Green this season. Find a RT and another guard next draft. Also, I suspect there will be FA QBs floating around after this season that could be worth a look. Not out of the question that Watson and Rodgers aren't on their current teams.
                          I don't believe that the Rooneys would ever sign Deshaun Watson.

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                          • NorthCoast
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26633

                            #14
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Its too difficult to determine where guys like Moore and Green will end up as players because they don't have any veterans to learn from, lean on or anchor the line. The Steelers need them to be those guys and they're rookies for crying out loud. I'd be willing to bet that putting Moore and Green on a line with Villanueva, DeCastro, and Pouncey and we'd all be happy with their play because the vets would be able to provide leadership and experience. Until these players all get that experience, there will be inconsistencies, penalties and sacks of Ben. I'm still hopeful that these young guys get it and begin to put it together, its called growing pains.

                            Now, what I hate is hiring an untested OC and offensive line coach to coach the linemen and put together an offense with these young guys. The Steelers needed experience and leadership somewhere for the linemen and there isn't any. Canada may become a good OC but not with this group, he probably would have benefited from an experienced line. So, untested OC and line coach, rookie LT and C, promising but under performing (so far) LG, high draft pick but bounced around RG and whatever Chuks is right now is the recipe for a bumpy ride to start. I have faith they will all figure it out and begin to work as a unit, stop with dumb penalties and gel as a unit by years end.

                            Hopefully, that, at least has the Steelers in the hunt for a playoff spot.

                            Pappy
                            Excellent points pappy. Good post.

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                            • Eich
                              Legend
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 7038

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              I don't believe that the Rooneys would ever sign Deshaun Watson.
                              Probably not. But I didn't think they'd sign Vick either. There were a lot of fans extremely upset about that. If Deshaun becomes a redemption story at some point, who knows.

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