Tre Norwood

[NJ-STEELER]

When they whining about the Rooney rule it seems clear what the issue is.

The Rooney rule is ONLY about ensuring coaches of color have an OPPORTUNITY to be interviewed.

Nearly ALL the SB coordinators are black...none were hired. Just interviews.

32 teams, 3 black head coaches and the "Rooney Rule" is some kind of terrible injustice to white coaches?

?

I never said it was an injustice to white coaches. just that it propped someone faster thru the ranks.

do you really think if we hired grimm the other owners in the league wouldn't have said something to rooney?
he came up with the rule, hiring a non african american would have made him look like a fool. I wish there were other more qualified candidates at the time. ones better prepared to lead an NFL squad
black, white, red, green... I don't F**king care what color they are


PS. Mel tucker has taken a MSU team predicted to be last in the big 10 and has them in the top 10.
he has head coaching and coordinator experience in college and the NFL.
I would have zero problem with him becoming the steelers coach. he's been through the experiences needed IMO to coach a NFL team. now compare that with tomlin coaching career before being hired.

so screw you and the idiotzzz for trying to paint me as a bigot because I question tomlin's resume

[Captain Lemming]

I never said it was an injustice to white coaches. just that it propped someone faster thru the ranks.

do you really think if we hired grimm the other owners in the league wouldn't have said something to rooney?
he came up with the rule, hiring a non african american would have made him look like a fool. I wish there were other more qualified candidates at the time. ones better prepared to lead an NFL squad
black, white, red, green... I don't F**king care what color they are


PS. Mel tucker has taken a MSU team predicted to be last in the big 10 and has them in the top 10.
he has head coaching and coordinator experience in college and the NFL.
I would have zero problem with him becoming the steelers coach. he's been through the experiences needed IMO to coach a NFL team. now compare that with tomlin coaching career before being hired.

so screw you and the idiotzzz for trying to paint me as a bigot because I question tomlin's resume

I suggest you get off the ridiculous "Tomlin was unqualified" when we have position coaches who were NEVER coordinators hired as head coach.

I'm sorry but if you think a coach who has a FAR better resume than 3/4 of the league, whining about a rule that just got him an interview...it is what it is.

You like Tucker? There is nothing to show he's getting an interview without that rule.

You got a beef with the Rooney rule, you are fine with how it used to be before when minorities were not being interviewed.

If that is the case, just own it.

[NJ-STEELER]

I suggest you get off the ridiculous "Tomlin was unqualified" when we have position coaches who were NEVER coordinators hired as head coach.

I'm sorry but if you think a coach who has a FAR better resume than 3/4 of the league, whining about a rule that just got him an interview...it is what it is.

You like Tucker? There is nothing to show he's getting an interview without that rule.
maybe, maybe not. he's head coached in the NFL (interem) before.
that's pure speculation on your part

You got a beef with the Rooney rule, you are fine with how it used to be before when minorities were not being interviewed.
no, its a good rule to get minority candidates more known. but that doesn't mean to just select any guy because of what color he is, a few more years as a successful DC showing he can make the calls on at least 1 side of the ball and I wouldn't have an issue with it

who are these position coaches getting jobs? how do you know i'm not against them getting head coaching jobs?

I would prefer (then and in the future) someone with more coordinator or HC experience because as head coach they would need to make decisions that positions coaches never make.

like going for 2 after a 10 yard penalty like the jax playoff game. that reeked of inexperience in that situation

[Northern_Blitz]

noted, but he was due to make $10M with jax this year.

no one is handing out contracts like that to 'fringe' players

He's a cast off.

That's like saying bringing in Haskins is bringing in a #1 pick.

It's true, but his team thought drafting him was a huge mistake so they dumped him for nothing.

Schobert's team realized that contract sucked, so they traded him for peanuts AND retained money.

[feltdizz]

do you belong on other boards? do you use the same defense when they try to diminish a 2 time SB winning QB?
thats double the amount of titles mikey has

I guess winning does matter more than personal performance.

Surprised you would even count Ben’s first SB win since he didn’t perform well.

yes, this is sarcasm.

[NJ-STEELER]

The NFL was a different league in the Cowher era. Less teams ran the 3-4 defense. As a result, the Steelers were able to pick players in mid and later rounds that were good fits for the 3-4 scheme.

Steeelers fans should consider themselves lucky to have 3 quality HC's since the 70's. I am not sure why some members of this fan base attempt to diminish what Tomlin helped this organization accomplish. It's borderline maddness. SMH. Tomlin is still coaching at a very high level.

here ya go bub

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/board/103198/Contents/for-the-ben-haters-174287116/?page=6

make an account and you can defend all things steelers. like our 2 time SB winning HOF QB

[NJ-STEELER]

He's a cast off.

That's like saying bringing in Haskins is bringing in a #1 pick.

It's true, but his team thought drafting him was a huge mistake so they dumped him for nothing.

Schobert's team realized that contract sucked, so they traded him for peanuts AND retained money.

I wish you were there to tell the staff that. giving up futures for a castoff and then inserting him into the starting line up?
sounds like a big waste of time

PS. a little reality here too. they brought in a new coach and a new scheme where his fit didn't equal his price tag.

[BURGH86STEEL]

here ya go bub

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/board/103198/Contents/for-the-ben-haters-174287116/?page=6

make an account and you can defend all things steelers. like our 2 time SB winning HOF QB

Hey bub you are a Tomlin hater. You have an anti Tomlin agenda. Typically, when an individual has an agenda they develop certain attitudes or a certain way of thinking for whatever reason. Enough said about that.

I am a Pittsburgher and Steelers lover. So I tend to fall on the more reasonable side when it comes to this organization. Probably because they win. I know you don't like Tomlin but the dude is a winner and champion. He is still coaching at a high level. Unfortunately you can't recognize this because of your "agenda".

[Northern_Blitz]

I wish you were there to tell the staff that. giving up futures for a castoff and then inserting him into the starting line up?
sounds like a big waste of time

PS. a little reality here too. they brought in a new coach and a new scheme where his fit didn't equal his price tag.

How much do you think about the arguments you make?

They did trade "futures". It's a 6th round pick, not a 1st rounder. They didn't sell out the future to bring in Schobert.

That's worth giving up for a cast off that's going to be your starter when the team you're trading with is going to retain salary (which I didn't even think was an option in the NFL before this trade. And this is after the presumed starter was terrible in the preseason and the depth guy retired at the last minute.

Just say, "I forgot that we also signed a bunch of lottery tickets on the OL too. I wish that more of them worked out. But at least the current OL seems to be playing better in the last couple weeks".

It's OK to admit that you're wrong about something.

Just like the thread I started about Freiermuth's TD this week. An amazing play by a guy who is beating the expectations I had for a rookie TE because it looks like he's now TE1 over a reasonable amount of competition in Ebron. I'm even happy to be wrong about the PF pick. And with the OL play looking better, maybe Green can be the C of the future that I was / am worried he wouldn't become.

[NJ-STEELER]

I am a Pittsburgher and Steelers lover. So I tend to fall on the more reasonable side when it comes to this organization. Probably because they win. I know you don't like Tomlin but the dude is a winner and champion. He is still coaching at a high level. Unfortunately you can't recognize this because of your "agenda".

cool bro

I gave you the link, go ahead and defend your team like you do here. there's a lot of unreasonable opinions on there

[NJ-STEELER]

How much do you think about the arguments you make?

They did trade "futures". It's a 6th round pick, not a 1st rounder. They didn't sell out the future to bring in Schobert.

That's worth giving up for a cast off that's going to be your starter when the team you're trading with is going to retain salary (which I didn't even think was an option in the NFL before this trade. And this is after the presumed starter was terrible in the preseason and the depth guy retired at the last minute.

Just say, "I forgot that we also signed a bunch of lottery tickets on the OL too. I wish that more of them worked out. But at least the current OL seems to be playing better in the last couple weeks".

It's OK to admit that you're wrong about something.

Just like the thread I started about Freiermuth's TD this week. An amazing play by a guy who is beating the expectations I had for a rookie TE because it looks like he's now TE1 over a reasonable amount of competition in Ebron. I'm even happy to be wrong about the PF pick. And with the OL play looking better, maybe Green can be the C of the future that I was / am worried he wouldn't become.

in and of itself a 6th rounder isn't much, I agree. add the 5th we gave up and oh yeah the 4th we traded away and now we're stuck without a draft pick after the 3rd round to the 7th.
in a draft said to be heavily deep with college players opting out. that's not good for
one, if they have a QB in their sites and they need to trade up and
2, for getting some great value in the draft

[hawaiiansteel]

in and of itself a 6th rounder isn't much, I agree. add the 5th we gave up and oh yeah the 4th we traded away and now we're stuck without a draft pick after the 3rd round to the 7th.
in a draft said to be heavily deep with college players opting out. that's not good for
one, if they have a QB in their sites and they need to trade up and
2, for getting some great value in the draft

we currently have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and two 7th round draft choices.

Bud Dupree should net us a 3rd round comp pick, Matt Feiler a 5th and Mike Hilton a 6th as long as Joe Haeg plays less than 25% of our snaps.

and rhe Steelers are trying to trade Ingram for a possible Day 3 selection, so we should have a good set of picks by the time the draft arrives.

[BURGH86STEEL]

cool bro

I gave you the link, go ahead and defend your team like you do here. there's a lot of unreasonable opinions on there

Nah I only have a limited amount of time and energy to engage with naysayers. Negative people at any extreme are generally a lost cause. There is hope for anyone though.

Maybe Tomlin helps to lead this organization to another championship or maybe he doesn't. No matter how hard Tomlin or Ben distracters try they can't diminish the accomplishments. 2 Superbowl appearances with any coach/franchise QB tandem is a major accomplishment. Ben played in 3 Superbowls and will be in the HOF. QB's that I think were better than Ben didn't have similar opportunities. Aaron Rogers is the one in this era that sticks out. Brees is another.

They had many opportunities to compete for more championships with this coach/QB tandem. As a fan, I can recognize this because I understand how difficult it is to win in professional sports.

Perspective my friend over agenda.

[NJ-STEELER]

we currently have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and two 7th round draft choices.

Bud Dupree should net us a 3rd round comp pick, Matt Feiler a 5th and Mike Hilton a 6th as long as Joe Haeg plays less than 25% of our snaps.

and rhe Steelers are trying to trade Ingram for a possible Day 3 selection, so we should have a good set of picks by the time the draft arrives.

I won't count on the comp picks yet because we've been screwed over with them by the league in the past

[hawaiiansteel]

I won't count on the comp picks yet because we've been screwed over with them by the league in the past

that's true, but even in the worst case scenario we will get al least a 4th and a 6th.