Tre Norwood

[NorthCoast]

I don't think it's simply how teams want to spend cap space. Sometimes it boils down different variables. There are not enough high quality players to go around at every position. NFL players are elite.

The elite of the elite NFL players are higher quality than Navy Seal elite.

Often times if teams can't improve one area of the team they attempt to add depth or improve another area. No team in the NFL can have quality depth at every position. This is the reality of professional sports.

You are forgetting that opponents adjust to what teams like to do as well. There was a recent writeup about how defenses have changed the way they play KC and it's really wrecked Mahomes game. It boils down to teams have stopped blitzing him (where he elevates his game) and instead sit back in coverage. TB highlighted it last season but it was actually used against him in the last month of the season. They mentioned BAL (a blitz heavy team) blitzed him less than 15% of the time this year. Mahomes has looked very ordinary against this scheme so far.

[feltdizz]

Mahommes looks like Texas Tech Mahimmes this year.. lol.

[LPMAN]

Who was available that was both good and cost a similar amount to Witherspoon or Schobert?

Pop quiz: How many OL did we sign this offseason? And who were they?

This probably gives some indication to what the Steelers thought the answer to the above question was.

Maybe there is someone else, but OL are hard to come by because everyone needs them.


Answer (Text is black, but you can see it if you highlight): Turner (OG). And Haeg (OR). And Finney (OG/C). And JC Hassenauer (OC).

Just because you don't like the OL we signed this offseason doesn't mean that we didn't sign them. All of these guys above were signed this offseason to cheap contracts as insurance / competition for OL jobs.

Yeah you have to get lucky like we did that year with Flozell Adams.

[NJ-STEELER]

You mean like he did with Taylor, Deebo, and Clark?

Dude it doesn't matter to you...you'd just credit THE LAST coach they had no matter HOW BAD they were before.

Yes, where are the days we could find these late round picks or small signings and have success on defense. I’ll give you Chris hope as well.

But. Hmmm. When did they acquire those players???
It looks wasn’t in the tomlin era.

Thx for proving my point

[NJ-STEELER]

They did hire fringe guys on D.

Ingram and Schobert are similar to Turner. Good past performance, but big question marks.

I think they would have made more signings like that on the OL if able. My guess is that they weren't available.

The place to get OL help was the draft not UFA IMO

schobert isn’t in that category. Not at his salary and level of play.

[hackjam]

why don't they use these fringe type signing for the defense? isn't that mikey's specialty? why does he need starters from the year before on other teams and coach them up if he's soooo special?

What do you call guys like Tre Norwood, Carlos Davis, Isaiah Buggs, Isaiahh Loudermilk, James Pierre, Arthur Maulet, Robert Spillane, etc.?

To address the offensive line point, I bet they would have re-signed Feiler if they knew DeCastro was on his way out.

[NJ-STEELER]

What do you call guys like Tre Norwood, Carlos Davis, Isaiah Buggs, Isaiahh Loudermilk, James Pierre, Arthur Maulet, Robert Spillane, etc.?

To address the offensive line point, I bet they would have re-signed Feiler if they knew DeCastro was on his way out.

I call those guys back ups unlike the fringe guys they chose as starters on the OL

[Northern_Blitz]

Yeah you have to get lucky like we did that year with Flozell Adams.

That was a surprisingly good signing.

As was the Max Starks re-run.

[Northern_Blitz]

schobert isn’t in that category. Not at his salary and level of play.

My understanding is that Schobert and Turner have similar total pay this year.

Schobert wasn't expensive this year.

That will change if we retain him, but that's a decision for next offseason.

[Captain Lemming]

Yes, where are the days we could find these late round picks or small signings and have success on defense. I’ll give you Chris hope as well.

But. Hmmm. When did they acquire those players???
It looks wasn’t in the tomlin era.

Thx for proving my point

If "your point" is to confirm the FACT that Tomlin COACHED UP underperforming Cowher players we agree after all.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Yes, where are the days we could find these late round picks or small signings and have success on defense. I’ll give you Chris hope as well.

But. Hmmm. When did they acquire those players???
It looks wasn’t in the tomlin era.

Thx for proving my point

The NFL was a different league in the Cowher era. Less teams ran the 3-4 defense. As a result, the Steelers were able to pick players in mid and later rounds that were good fits for the 3-4 scheme.

Steeelers fans should consider themselves lucky to have 3 quality HC's since the 70's. I am not sure why some members of this fan base attempt to diminish what Tomlin helped this organization accomplish. It's borderline maddness. SMH. Tomlin is still coaching at a very high level.

[Captain Lemming]

The NFL was a different league in the Cowher era. Less teams ran the 3-4 defense. As a result, the Steelers were able to pick players in mid and later rounds that were good fits for the 3-4 scheme.

Steeelers fans should consider themselves lucky to have 3 quality HC's since the 70's. I am not sure why some members of this fan base attempt to diminish what Tomlin helped this organization accomplish. It's borderline maddness. SMH. Tomlin is still coaching at a very high level.

When they whining about the Rooney rule it seems clear what the issue is.

The Rooney rule is ONLY about ensuring coaches of color have an OPPORTUNITY to be interviewed.

Nearly ALL the SB coordinators are black...none were hired. Just interviews.

32 teams, 3 black head coaches and the "Rooney Rule" is some kind of terrible injustice to white coaches?

Mike Tomlin just matched the record of his predecessor who JUST GOT A GOLD JACKET in fewer games.

He is by any OBJECTIVE measure one of the leagues most accomplished coaches.

Do some long for the "good ole days" when black candidates weren't even given a chance to interview?

[NJ-STEELER]

My understanding is that Schobert and Turner have similar total pay this year.

Schobert wasn't expensive this year.

That will change if we retain him, but that's a decision for next offseason.

noted, but he was due to make $10M with jax this year.

no one is handing out contracts like that to 'fringe' players

[NJ-STEELER]

The NFL was a different league in the Cowher era. Less teams ran the 3-4 defense. As a result, the Steelers were able to pick players in mid and later rounds that were good fits for the 3-4 scheme.

Steeelers fans should consider themselves lucky to have 3 quality HC's since the 70's. I am not sure why some members of this fan base attempt to diminish what Tomlin helped this organization accomplish. It's borderline maddness. SMH. Tomlin is still coaching at a very high level.

do you belong on other boards? do you use the same defense when they try to diminish a 2 time SB winning QB?
thats double the amount of titles mikey has

[Captain Lemming]

do you belong on other boards? do you use the same defense when they try to diminish a 2 time SB winning QB?
thats double the amount of titles mikey has

TCFCLTC can wear a ring on both hands...just like Ben.