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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
    I don't know, that is a tough question. If he does want to play longer (and that's a big if) he does have roots firmly planted in the community and young children in school. I don't think Ben would want to break the bank either, he has already shown he is willing to take a pay cut.
    Maybe.

    But my guess is that he'll want to be going after rings.

    And I think we'll be interested in doing a rebuild and freeing up cap space for our defensive stars in TJ and Minkah.

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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      Maybe...but...gulp...if that happens, I don't think it will be with us.

      The downside for the team with the dummy year contract is that Ben will be a UFA next season.

      I highly doubt that we tag him.

      And I don't think he'd go for less than market rate to be on a team that will likely have a fair number of holes after a bunch of departures this season.

      You never know, but I think retirement or chasing a ring with a strong contender are more likely than him coming back to us. With retirement being the most likely outcome IMO.
      I disagree. I think Ben will take a discount rather than play for another team. He will either take a discount or hang them up. I see Ben being concerned about his legacy but it being attached to the Burgh. If Ben plays for another franchise I would be shocked. Remember a few things, Brady needed to prove he could be great without Bellicheck. The Steelers and the city of Pittsburgh have been loyal to Ben. He will be loyal back. The only way Ben plays for another team is if Haskins blows up so hard the Steelers make a move on Ben. Which they wont.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        Originally posted by Shawn
        I disagree. I think Ben will take a discount rather than play for another team. He will either take a discount or hang them up. I see Ben being concerned about his legacy but it being attached to the Burgh. If Ben plays for another franchise I would be shocked. Remember a few things, Brady needed to prove he could be great without Bellicheck. The Steelers and the city of Pittsburgh have been loyal to Ben. He will be loyal back. The only way Ben plays for another team is if Haskins blows up so hard the Steelers make a move on Ben. Which they wont.
        I agree with this.

        Ben won't ever play for another NFL team, it'll be the Steelers or he will retire.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          I agree with this.

          Ben won't ever play for another NFL team, it'll be the Steelers or he will retire.
          Exactly, he doesn't have Brady level ego. He has nothing left to prove and plenty of money.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            Originally posted by feltdizz
            On our first play I want Ben to hand it off to Najee.
            And then Najee throws a bomb to Claypool.
            http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              Originally posted by Shawn
              Exactly, he doesn't have Brady level ego. He has nothing left to prove and plenty of money.
              This is what I see as well. But I don’t see another year after this one either from him ( depending on how this one goes)

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              • NorthCoast
                Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 26636

                Originally posted by Shawn
                If Ben stays healthy I could see him play 2-3 more seasons before he hangs it up.
                Remember one big factor no one is considering. Roethlisberger told the team he wanted to play another year before his OL buddies made their decisions for the season. He was hoping to convince Pouncey to stay on, and was also hoping the Steelers would keep AV. Neither happened. He has no emotional ties to the current OL.

                I think this will be his final season.

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                • Northern_Blitz
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 24373

                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Remember one big factor no one is considering. Roethlisberger told the team he wanted to play another year before his OL buddies made their decisions for the season. He was hoping to convince Pouncey to stay on, and was also hoping the Steelers would keep AV. Neither happened. He has no emotional ties to the current OL.

                  I think this will be his final season.
                  This is where I'm at 80% or above.

                  If we thought he might come back, why not have a deal like Sutton's where it voids after 2 seasons instead of 1?

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    Remember one big factor no one is considering. Roethlisberger told the team he wanted to play another year before his OL buddies made their decisions for the season. He was hoping to convince Pouncey to stay on, and was also hoping the Steelers would keep AV. Neither happened. He has no emotional ties to the current OL.

                    I think this will be his final season.
                    I think it depends 100 percent on how the season goes. If we miss the playoffs (very possible) this will be his last.

                    If Ben plays well, stays healthy, and we go deep into the playoffs (also possible), both sides are incentivized to keep thus train going. He WILL be back.

                    Removing a QB who is playing well on a team that is winning is like pulling a bottom Jenga piece.

                    We go deep in playoffs means we hit on oline, Najee is killing it, and the defense is beastly. Canada is a play calling magician. They will all only get better.

                    If by some miracle we win it all, I say it's a toss up, based on whether Ben is tired and satisfied, or still hungry. I'd guess he'd be more Elway than Brady.
                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 07-31-2021, 11:21 AM.
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                    • Ernie
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 8470

                      There arent too many scenarios in which I see Ben staying after this year.
                      The primary concern i saw with him last year was his accuracy down the field. Of course the drops didnt help.. but I am not optimistic that.. at his age... still coming off of the injury.. limited participation in practice/preseason... that he will return to the Ben of old.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        I think it depends 100 percent on how the season goes. If we miss the playoffs (very possible) this will be his last.

                        If Ben plays well, stays healthy, and we go deep into the playoffs (also possible), both sides are incentivized to keep thus train going. He WILL be back.

                        Removing a QB who is playing well on a team that is winning is like pulling a bottom Jenga piece.

                        We go deep in playoffs means we hit on oline, Najee is killing it, and the defense is beastly. Canada is a play calling magician. They will all only get better.

                        If by some miracle we win it all, I say it's a toss up, based on whether Ben is tired and satisfied, or still hungry. I'd guess he'd be more Elway than Brady.
                        I think its the opposite. If we miss the playoffs I think Ben knows its a wrap.

                        If we have a deep run at least he goes out with a few more playoff wins.

                        If you are damn near 40 missing the playoffs what is the point?
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16041

                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          I think its the opposite.
                          Really?
                          If we miss the playoffs I think Ben knows its a wrap.
                          Which is kinda exactly what I said.

                          If we have a deep run at least he goes out with a few more playoff wins.
                          Yes, which is why staying is enticing. If we brought him back WITHOUT a playoff run, why would we drop him or he want to quit if we are IMPROVING year to year. The incentive to take ONE MORE shot is greater than this season for all parties involved.

                          If you are damn near 40 missing the playoffs what is the point?
                          Which again agrees with what I said.

                          In only one scenario do we disagree.

                          Clearly you dont think there is ANY scenario that brings Ben back.

                          As I gave FOUR scenarios and in only one do I suggest it is likely Ben comes back, meanings I think it is unlikely that he stays, I hardly think your view is the opposite of mine.
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