FInal mock. Post yours here.

[feltdizz]

Whoa. Of course the team wants all 53 players and PS people to stay. Duh. His drops are his drops, I have nothing to due with the amount.

Based on his past history and his recent performance, I would say the team isn''t thrilled with Ebron. That's my opinion. The guys a loud mouth and I have plenty of his quotes to back that up. If you think teams want an expensive player with an over inflated opinion of his worth, that drops too many passes, can't block a lick, and when he does catch it averages 10 yards a catch, just say it. Don't put world in my mouth that are not there. I said nothing of the sort of the team privately agreeing with me. Let me guess, you're the type that defended Ladarius Green.

I'd rather have the ball in Ju'ju's, Claypool's., Etienne ( if he draft him ) and probably Johnson's and Washington's hands over Ebron.

We have guy who sucks a blocker and averages 10 yard a catch, has a very low AV for a reason, yet you are mentioning him with Kelece?

yes.. I’m mentioning Kelce because he plays the same position and we are discussing drop rates.. not overall production. Kelce gets paid a ton compared to Ebron.

As far as your opinion. That is cool. We all have them but when you try to speak for the team you lose credibility.

If the Steelers were disappointed with Ebron they would’ve released him.

[feltdizz]

I know. The way this guy posts on here, it's like when many of us did when we first logged on to the internet like 15 years ago. No need for the attitude.

when you try to speak for the team or tell people they “privately agree with you” while they are doing the exact opposite of what you are saying.. lol.

At least wait until they release Ebron or do what you predicted to boast about being correct.

As long as Ebron is on the team you can’t say the front office secretly doesn’t like him. That’s just weird. Teams release players they don’t like who also don’t produce.. especially while in cap hell.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

yes.. I’m mentioning Kelce because he plays the same position and we are discussing drop rates.. not overall production. Kelce gets paid a ton compared to Ebron.

As far as your opinion. That is cool. We all have them but when you try to speak for the team you lose credibility.

If the Steelers were disappointed with Ebron they would’ve released him.

It doesn't work that way. I think the problem is you think it's a Madden game or something. I suggest you check out the over the cap web site. Lots of information there. I do NOT speak for the team. Thats your fantasy. Please stop saying it. However this is such a thing as a disappointing move. Ebron is an example of one.

If the Steelers were to release Ebron, they lose -$7,380,00 on the cap. Understand? No way ANY Team would do that by design. We are stuck with him and he's worth something, just not $4,596,000 on the cap this year, and what he was paid last year. I trade him now for a 3rd round pick.

[Steel Maniac]

It doesn't work that way. I think the problem is you think it's a Madden game or something. I suggest you check out the over the cap web site. Lots of information there. I do NOT speak for the team. Thats your fantasy. Please stop saying it. However this is such a thing as a disappointing move. Ebron is an example of one.

If the Steelers were to release Ebron, they lose -$7,380,00 on the cap. Understand? No way ANY Team would do that by design. We are stuck with him and he's worth something, just not $4,596,000 on the cap this year, and what he was paid last year. I trade him now for a 3rd round pick.

Ebron will get ample opportunity to look better this coming season. He (along with a few guys) got some humble pie at the end of the year. I think we see a better version of him.

[feltdizz]

It doesn't work that way. I think the problem is you think it's a Madden game or something. I suggest you check out the over the cap web site. Lots of information there. I do NOT speak for the team. Thats your fantasy. Please stop saying it. However this is such a thing as a disappointing move. Ebron is an example of one.

If the Steelers were to release Ebron, they lose -$7,380,00 on the cap. Understand? No way ANY Team would do that by design. We are stuck with him and he's worth something, just not $4,596,000 on the cap this year, and what he was paid last year. I trade him now for a 3rd round pick.

wait.. you think a loud mouth, non blocking TE with terrible hands can still get us a 3rd rounder?

Umm.. okay.

and no, I didn’t say you sooke for the org, you said the org probably “agrees with you in private”.. what does that even mean?

of course we aren’t releasing Ebron because we reworked his contract. That tells me they aren’t disappointed with him.

[hawaiiansteel]

definitely.. we need a legit blocking TE.

Rooney has once again stated we need to improve our run game.

having a good blocking TE is one good way to do that, I'm sure we'll select one in this draft.

[feltdizz]

Ebron will get ample opportunity to look better this coming season. He (along with a few guys) got some humble pie at the end of the year. I think we see a better version of him.

and hopefully we aren’t throwing 3 yard passes to him in the dirt at the LOS. He’s a big target who should be running intermediate routes abusing LB’s and smaller safeties/DB’s.

[feltdizz]

Rooney has once again stated we need to improve our run game.

having a good blocking TE is one good way to do that, I'm sure we'll select one in this draft.

I agree.. but adding a blocking TE doesn’t make Ebron expendable. As long as Ben is here I think Ebron will be here.

[hawaiiansteel]

I agree.. but adding a blocking TE doesn’t make Ebron expendable. As long as Ben is here I think Ebron will be here.

oh I agree, I personally like Ebron and he is still the #1 pass catching TE.

but in two TE sets it will be helpful to the run game to have the other TE be able to block well.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

and hopefully we aren’t throwing 3 yard passes to him in the dirt at the LOS. He’s a big target who should be running intermediate routes abusing LB’s and smaller safeties/DB’s.

Agreed. Hopefully by adding speedy back and picking two OL players, we can run the ball a bit better. Notice I didn't add Ebron's name. He's a real zero as a blocker. No help to the running game at all.

Yes, he can catch it and sometimes get open, but I believe the DB's fear Claypool and Ju-ju more as they are harder covers, and if the Steelers drafted Etienne he'l burn a front's seven's rear end.

Of the Running game, Passing game, Run defense, and Pass defense, fixing the running game is probably the easiest. That's what Rooney wants, and we can do it with this draft.

[feltdizz]

Agreed. Hopefully by adding speedy back and picking two OL players, we can run the ball a bit better. Notice I didn't add Ebron's name. He's a real zero as a blocker. No help to the running game at all.

Yes, he can catch it and sometimes get open, but I believe the DB's fear Claypool and Ju-ju more as they are harder covers, and if the Steelers drafted Etienne he'l burn a front's seven's rear end.

Of the Running game, Passing game, Run defense, and Pass defense, fixing the running game is probably the easiest. That's what Rooney wants, and we can do it with this draft.

passing downfield opens up the running game too.

once again it doesn’t matter what you believe Ebron os to the team. The team values him and he will be a significant part of the offense.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

passing downfield opens up the running game too.

once again it doesn’t matter what you believe Ebron os to the team. The team values him and he will be a significant part of the offense.

Well it's a two part equation. I don't think the team currently has the Tackles to throw it down field as often as we'd like.

Speed has a way of making defense back off, which we didn't have much of last season. Conner was likely the slowest feature back in football.

Passing downfield requires time by the OL.

As for Ebron's value to the team he's poor as a blocker. No debate there. As a pass catcher last season he averaged 10.0 yards and fumbled it once. 558 total yards for the season. 10 yards a catch is low. Ho-hum.

This is good for 5th on the team, behind Claypool, Ju-Ju, Johnson, and Conner. If we pick a back, I suspect he will get more attempts than Conner did, and some of those attempts will come at the expense of Ebron, who was the 5th man in yardage to the offense. In terms of scoring Ebron is was 6th place last year on the team.

If you like the AV value from Pro Football they gave him a 4 last season, which is not good. Sorry Ebron is nothing but a complementary piece and one I think could be swapped out for a better blocker. As I showed you he's 5th on the team in yards, AND 6th on the team in scoring. This season if we find a better back in the draft, I expect Ebron's production to decline. Sure every player has value, but to call him a significant part of the team is a real stretch. You think he's " significant ".

Nov 25 2020 - i’m not gone lie
@NFL THIS IS B()ll S&it. - Eric Ebron.

Sure, sure, Rooney, Colbert and Tomlin appreciate this type of take on social media. He's flirting with a fine or suspension IMO.

PS: I didn't say Ebron is worth a 3rd round pick, I said I'd trade him for one. See the difference?

[steeler_george]

Trade with NO

1.28 Humphrey
2.55 Sermon
3.87 Tremble
3.105 Wade
4.121 Forstyhe
4.140 Barnes ILB
6. koonce
7 Funk RB
7 Aery Williamson

Harris, Jenkins, Collins won't last to us

sneaky names:
Gainswell
Deablo
Long TE
Spencer
Browning
Meinerz

[Chucktownsteeler]

Passing the ball more than 3 yards past the line of scrimmage will also improve your running game. Not re-signing Randy has already helped a little.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

nice draft..

but we aren’t getting rid of Ebron no matter how much people loathe his few drops last year.

Limit him i say. Eric Ebron leads NFL tight ends in penalties, and drops last season as of 12-19-20. Negative plays.

Footballoutsiders.com rates him as the worst among 43 qualifying tight ends (minus-97 defense-adjusted yards above replacement). PFF’s more subjective grades rank Ebron 43rd out of its 44 qualifiers.

What's the infatuation with this guy?