btw, I'm not anti-Cowher. Going back to the trib days I'm on record as grieving once he moved on because I didn't think the Steelers could strike lightning twice. Fortunately they did when Tomlin was hired. After Tomlin moves on I don't know if lighting can strike three times. Kinda reminds me of this video:
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Coach Cowher knew how to utilize Ben, and how to try and limit his errors. Even in his first playoff game, Ben was bad, yet they won in OT. The next year, on their magical run, Ben was a play action game manager, and excelled at it. He was especially deadly in the wins against Cin and Den. He was okay in the Indy game, but really bad against Seattle in the SB. There's a reason why Ben was 5-1 with coach Bill, and 8-8 since, and it's to the point you make. To me, he will always be at his best as a play action QB who had a knack for big plays when he scrambled to buy more time. Father time has taken away that away.
The QB has to be the centerpiece of your offence when it takes up 10% - 12% of your offense.Comment
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btw, I'm not anti-Cowher. Going back to the trib days I'm on record as grieving once he moved on because I didn't think the Steelers could strike lightning twice. Fortunately they did when Tomlin was hired. After Tomlin moves on I don't know if lighting can strike three times. Kinda reminds me of this video:
And his career is essentially the same as Tomlin's.Comment
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its called not throwing his young WR corps under the bus and sinking their confidence.
as professionals. dropping the balls they did is simply inexcusable. even ur boiiii agreed and benched johnson and some more dropsComment
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So you don't blame Ben for the picks, but you blame Tomlin for everything?
Because the always in the probowl center and the hof QB who have both played for more than a decade weren't prepared? Is it ever the players fault?
This is what I was referring to as the "Tomlin didn't sprinkle enough pixie dust on them" argument.
Yes the D sucked too. But how demoralized do you think they were?
They should have rose to the challenge better than they did. That would have made the game closer.
But after the worst offensive quarter in the history of the playoffs, the game was over anyway.
And Ben has sucked in playoff games when not down by multiple scores for a while. I don't think he can succeed against good defenses that play tight coverage anymore.
Do you think he has a good second half if the game is closer and the Browns are playing tighter?
Remember he thew another pick when we had a chance to get within 8 with a TD and 2 point conversion.
Like the Jags game, we were brutal on O whenever it was within 2 scores.
I hope I'm wrong and he pulls a P Manning this year, but I don't think Ben has it anymore.
I defended the INT that went right thru DJs hands (something we saw all year unfortunately)Comment
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So you don't blame Ben for the picks, but you blame Tomlin for everything?
Because the always in the probowl center and the hof QB who have both played for more than a decade weren't prepared? Is it ever the players fault?
This is what I was referring to as the "Tomlin didn't sprinkle enough pixie dust on them" argument.
Yes the D sucked too. But how demoralized do you think they were?
They should have rose to the challenge better than they did. That would have made the game closer.
But after the worst offensive quarter in the history of the playoffs, the game was over anyway.
And Ben has sucked in playoff games when not down by multiple scores for a while. I don't think he can succeed against good defenses that play tight coverage anymore.
Do you think he has a good second half if the game is closer and the Browns are playing tighter?
Remember he thew another pick when we had a chance to get within 8 with a TD and 2 point conversion.
Like the Jags game, we were brutal on O whenever it was within 2 scores.
I hope I'm wrong and he pulls a P Manning this year, but I don't think Ben has it anymore.
arthur moats disagrees with you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-StrjUMCKGw&t=844s
so does the new OC. on his youtube after the contract reneg.Comment
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DJ kept dropping passes but no one else did.
Practice!!!Steelers 27
Rats 16Comment
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I don't think the Pats game was on Ben. The Pats were just the better team and we were decimated by injuries IIRC.
Your description of the game against the Jags includes 3 turnovers in the drives you outlined. The offense was bad against a very good defense. I guess it's good that Ben played better than he did in the regular season game? Fans underestimated how good the Jags were. Which I think is crazy after they owned us in the regular season game. Too many were in the "oh, Ben just has the odd horrible game every year. It's us not them. Not a big deal." camp. That defense was special. And we needed to get a lead and not turn the ball over early. The O (where we spent so much cap room that year) needed to carry the D (after losing it's only real play maker). And they failed.
Let me give you some super deep football analysis about the Browns game. It's almost impossible to win a game when you're -5 in the turnover ratio. I know that it's a ground breaking idea. So when your QB has 4 interceptions, it's his fault you lost. That's the reason he gets paid the big bucks. Because he's the person most responsible for success and failure on the team. And you team will lose when / if he ****s the bed.
it also might have helped, after getting demolished by the jags team in the regular season, if the idiot coach didn't come on national TV and give them bulletin board material.
nearly every analysts leading up to that game predicted a tight game with the Jags defense being so good and the jags offense being so bad.
which side on the steelers exceeded expectations?Comment
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if your criteria is a lower number, feel free to call anyone whatever the hell you want. I couldn't possibly care less.Comment
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